See featured clip: Demon Appears in Photo of a Couple

...and the moral to the story is - " Drugs are bad, m'kay?"


But seriously speaking...Can bad behaviour or an influence of substances like drugs, such as in this case, make people 'vulnerable' to bad spirits? (or become a 'magnet' to evil spirts?)

Joe Martinez says, 'drugs were killing his soul' ... So, how many drug addicts out there could there be with an evil demon hanging around them??

All due respect to you the_reader, you are just reporting an interesting story,' but the Martinez couple are making a story out of nothing!

This is clearly a dog! I know dogs. I have three of them. I show two of them, and have had dogs all of my life... This is a dog!

It may be a 'spirit' dog, who knows, but if that's a demon, he's gotta be the cutest demon in hell. It's nonsense! I cannot believe that it made Fox News for one thing, but that anyone could mistake it for anything other than a dog mystifies me...

Don't you just wanna bang some peoples heads together? lol.

Hey thanks for your reply to my post Eternal Light - and you are so right: there is no concrete evidence that the dog in the photo is a demon. And what were Fox News thinking when they agreed to air the story?? They must have been desperate!! LOL

I am a dog lover too and found it hard to believe that it could be a demon. But I do want to know if it is true that a bad spirit/ demon can be attracted to the soul of a person who is troubled with substance abuse (alcohol or drugs addiction)?

I so wish I could answer your question for you 'the_reader, but I am in no way an expert on Demons. The thing is, I simply do not believe in 'demons' as such... I believe that there are one or two users that do seem to know something of them, but that may be in UM, I'm not sure. I know that I have read posts from people claiming to know about and having researched such phenomenon.

I do not say that Demons 'don't' exist; simply that I, personally, do not believe in them.

I will look around for someone who appears to have researched such things and point them to this thread tho...

Good luck in your quest.

Thanks, that would be great

There are plenty of angels and demons - they are the best and worst of humanity and can make this earth heaven or hell respectively.

Maybe this was a really bad tempered dog?

Does anyone have a link to a Still of this 'demon?'

...or know where I can get more info... say, a newspaper article on the story?

Hi again the_reader... I asked someone that I thought might know something about Demons, and he sent me this reply, and also kindly gave me permission to quote him. He says:



oops, forgot! The person who said that is Lollipopkid, from UM

Wish I could do more, sorry.

Thank you Eternal Light for looking into the topic for me. Does make sense what your friend had to say, but like you I am still convinced that its a dog in the picture

Demons are prone to be attracted to you depending on what you do, what things you are committing. Are you being a decent person living life to the fullest or living a life of crime? Are you showing love to your family and friends or isolating yourself from them? Depending on these things you may even experience a demonic possession which leaves you with a feeling of hopelessness and depression. The possession leads you into a false sense of security and plagues your mind with unclean and impure thoughts. Some of these thoughts are lies telling you that you are not worthy, self hatred, so that they have a firm grasp on your soul. We all experience these feelings every once in awhile through our life.

These attacks can make not only personality and behavior changes but also make you do things out of the norm and usaully these things are harmful, if not to you but to someone else, even if something small such as taking dog biscuits away from your dog out of spite. You felt that you had to cause some sort of harm for some bizzare reason. Now you normally would not do this and while you did you felt angry, depressed, and just overall strange and had no real idea why...well that is a sign of a demonic possession or if not a possession, an attack. A sign that they have pointed their fiery darts at you and began shooting, which come in the forms of false accusations, irrational fears, condemnation, and insecurity.

Not only is this utter nonsense, but it is dangerous nonsense; inasmuch as it will scare quite ordinary, but impressionable folk into believing that they are possessed by these ‘demons, which, incidentally, you have supplied no link to for proof of their existence; when in fact they are simply being what they are, human beings, with the actions that define human nature.



No! it’s a sign that someone is acting according to their own particular traits, as defines their nature, or inclination, or perhaps they are merely going thro a trying time… moreover, if they are feeling depressed, their best bet would be to consult their Doctor, not an Exorcist!



I urge anyone that reads this particular paragraph, and feels that they may have any or all of these signs, to remember that these are perfectly natural things that occur in everyday life, to ordinary folk, and is totally NOT a sign of possession.

You believe in ghosts but not demons? Don't you know demons are spiritual in nature like ghosts? They are just generally perceived as malevolent beings who like to corrupt mankind by tempting it into harming itself unlike ghosts who could go either way depending on if they were tainted and became unclean spirits but are generally just neutral or lost souls being projected back in time over and over because that is a time that they had a lot of joy in their earthly life or a lot of pain and they wish to haunt that particular place seeking to eventually rest in peace.

While what you say has truth to it and we can't blame demons for everything. It is actually the world and our own flesh that is the worst obstacle. It's our own hearts and minds that are a bane and obstacle. These feelings can be strong and they often lead us into bondage and depression. These are ordinary, you are right in saying that but while they are ordinary feelings, it doesn't mean that they are not cause by forces beyond our normal understanding. With cinematography and video games things such as that seem surreal so I don't blame you for doubting. I don't need to supply proof of their existence when they do the proving themselves. The occult is something to prove for demons, they even mention demonic summoning in their grimoires. Besides what do you think the Mothman is or the Jersey "Devil"? I think they are physical manifestations. They just simply came into the material realm which is ours, from the spiritual which is theirs.

I am not trying to scare anyone, so don't think of it like that but wouldn't it be better if they know the truth? Just don't count on mainstream sources for information about demons and perhaps you'll come up with your own interpretation and find answers.

Ok umm the first paragraph sounds very much tainted by religious beliefs. Way back before anyone knew about epilepsy , it was believed to be a sign of possession. Depression , from what I understand , can be simple a chemical imbalance or just simply not being able to accept the things going around in one's life. Far from possession.

Blaming Demons is only an excuse for ones own actions. I personally don't believe in Demons. Miss interpreted entities ............maybe...dunno.
The occult hasn't proven anything to my knowledge of Demons. The occult uses alot of symbolisms.
There's a big difference in believing and proving. One can not take what is written long ago as proof as things may have been extremely misinterpreted back then too.

I shall reply to this reply when I can; at the moment I'm kinda tied up here with work.

I believe in ‘spirits, and ghosts (maybe), but not in the conventional sense.



I don’t know anything of the sort! How are you defining ‘spiritual’ in this context? Are we talking religion here? Because perhaps I should warn you that I am neither religious, nor do I believe in any God/s.



Well, I’m afraid that I see this as superstitious nonsense.



??? Become unclean spirits? Wouldn’t this be, if one believed in it, the same as a Demon? What defines a difference between an unclean spirit and an er… off the rails ghost then?



One simply cannot label a ‘neutral or lost soul’ as demonic. See definition of demon:

• devil: an evil supernatural being
• monster: a cruel wicked and inhuman person
• someone extremely diligent or skillful; "he worked like a demon to finish the job on time"; "she's a demon at math"
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&d...on&ct=title





No, particularly since there is absolutely no evidence to suggest such an entity exists.




Exactly! And that is why you simply cannot pose these theories of yours as fact! These emotions are highly unlikely to be because of possession, but of experiencing the trials and tribulations of life.

There are some young people here, some are impressionable, and perhaps, may be vulnerable to suggestion, and you simply cannot warp their young minds, or scare them with such nonsense that may damage them permanently. Nor can you state your theories as fact, when you have supplied no evidence, links, or sources to back up your claims.



I don’t doubt them over such immature reasoning. I doubt them because there is no proof that demons exist. I don’t play ‘video games’ and I don’t watch horror movies with such an theme… because I find them implausible, badly scripted, and often badly acted. It is simply not a part of my life, or world.



Yes, oh yes you do! You have put forward such an argument quite explicitly, for their involvement in people’s everyday actions and emotions. So, of course you have to supply evidence for such a statement purported to be fact.



One simply cannot reply to the sentence above. I mean, what are you trying to say here? That the occult has to prove demonology, you don’t?



I have no idea what the reports of Mothmen and Owlmen and suchlike creatures can possibly mean. Obviously some people are convinced that they have encountered such beings, and many of them are convincing, some even compelling, but where is the proof?

Where is the evidence that these are ‘demons’ and not just something that the human mind cannot fathom, yet may be quite harmless? Where is your evidence to back up your claims that they come into our dimension from the spiritual world. You may well be right, but it is not fact, merely conjecture.



No, I am quite certain that you are not trying to scare anyone, and yes, it may well be better for them to ‘know the truth,’ but, what is the truth? You have no evidence to back up your claims that peoples everyday actions and emotions are caused by demonic possession, and it is irresponsible to claim it as fact.

Its a dog!...... How did a dog get into the reception hall? And coming from a ex drug user would you believe anything they say....? Warped irrational thoughts and going from one addiction to another.... This is a personal experience which has been now dangerously advertised in the media - in my opinion - pure superstitous rubbish!