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Fantailmoon
I have been asked to take a look at a friends aunts house as they are having alot of paranormal problems, i havnt said this before but this is my thing, i go to propertys and get rid of violent unwanted entitys, i have done this for a good few years and have experienced alot although i have never bothered to document it , at least until now. i am going armed with a camcorder and digital camera also i will take a voice recorder of some kind , i think it is about time i did this. i dont take any form of payment and enjoy this work emensley, i will post all my recordings and finds on here , i am not sure when i will be going as i was meant to go last weekend but the lady said no as when they were discussing me going the entity went wild, she is extremely scared and is moving as this thing will not leave her little girl alone, it has been violent and makes alot of noise during the night. I hope to capture something as this thing is not shy.
Hades
well, if its constantly bothering the residents then you shouldn't really have a problem with catching it. Just make sure that you look out for your own safety as well. Do you know what type of entity it is yet or are you still trying to figure that out?
Fantailmoon
QUOTE (EvanParant @ Nov 28 2007, 03:31 PM) *
well, if its constantly bothering the residents then you shouldn't really have a problem with catching it. Just make sure that you look out for your own safety as well. Do you know what type of entity it is yet or are you still trying to figure that out?

i havnt been yet and i want to talk with all concerned first. it has been aggressive and noisy which is its main thing, the poor woman is terrified. I will look out for my self as i have done this on many occasions, but i am after the evidence this time.
I get so excited before one of these, i have a spiritual background and have an army of family over there who will see no harm done to me. Fingers crossed this thing likes to show you its there.
Hades
I think asking the family is a good idea, i would also consider what their beliefs are, in might reveal some insight. I hope that you are able to catch something visual like a photo or some video. If you do, make sure to post it on the site and tell everyone.
Fantailmoon
definately will
Rosemary
I am not sure if moving will stop the problem.

I have moved three times since l985 when my problems began, but in my case the problem spirits were three of my friends and a man I knew before he died.

On the other hand if the Spirit bothering your friend, is a spirit who believes he owns the home its possible it just wants her and her kid to get out and so it may not want to follow.

But if its haunting her and her child and not the house, it could be the spirit of someone she knows who died and is seeking vengance against her and nothing will stop them until they have the satisfaction they set out to get.

In my own case when I tried to get rid of my three relatives and the spirit of the man I am talking about they simply put their foot down and entered my body as possessing spirits and ever since then I have been trying to convince some of my realtives and others that I need help in locating a priest but they say don't tell thema bout these things which scare them and so I am on my own writing about my experiences hoping to help others learn more about the After Life.

When Spirits leave their earthly body as we know they die from many things, sometimes murder, violent accidents and they take with them all their intelligence and memories both good and bad and depending on their state of mind which guages their behavior in the Spirit World they can become angels or vengeful spirits seeking vengance against those on Earth that they don't like for many reasons and when this happens there is Hell to pay for the Human who has crossed them in thei life before their death.

You might ask her if anyone she knows has died who might want to come back and haunt her and if she says yes about the only thing I know to do is try to make peace with them and try to right any wrongs that the Spirit feels she has done to them.

In my case that hasn't worked and they say they will torment me until the day I die.

This man says he knows I am trying to send him away so I can find another man, and he says this will never happen if he and three of my relatives are sitting inside my body and I am telling this story.

He vows to be waiting for me when I die and says that can't be too soon to suit him.

I tell him he needs to go be with his wife and son who have died since he did and he said to hell with his wife, their union ended when he died, because the vows said til death do we part.

He says she didn't have time for him when he was here always running after the kids and now he has better things to do.
Fantailmoon
I do agree with you Rose that these things are possible as i myself have witnessed some of the things you spoke about,
i have alot of sympathy for you and if i lived near you would do my utmost to help you as i believe i can, i have dealt with a person who believed themselves to be posessed and they are now living a normal life, i am not psychic but can converse with the dead, alot of people get these two things confused, i will be going into this house with all these questions you have asked and will work from there, i will also be doing a background check on the property but at the moment am on the belief that it is the people that are haunted and not the property. i found it strange that when the lady mentioned me coming it got worse as if it didnt like the sound of that. i will have my protection around me and go into this with my eyes wide open.
Hades
i read a study that there as been an increase of possessions over the past 20 years. Anybody else know about that?
Fantailmoon
yeah ive heard that a few times and i believe this is due purely because the world is changing and we are changing, there is definately a rise in more violent crimes than there ever was.
Laura
What is your success rate, (with regards to cleansing houses)?
Fantailmoon
i havnt had one yet that dosnt work out well, it may take more than one try but i persist and all works out.
Laura
That's good. How many locations have you cleansed?

QUOTE (fantailmoon @ Dec 1 2007, 05:31 AM) *
i havnt had one yet that dosnt work out well, it may take more than one try but i persist and all works out.

Fantailmoon
i cant be exact but over the last few years it has increased allready this year i have been asked to 6 which as i dont advertise is a very high number, the last wasnt too bad though the person just needed to stop opening up to things they didnt understand, as this was causing a whole load of things to happen , they now no how to close off from these things and it is thankfully alot quieter.
Fantailmoon
Well just an update on my current position, i havnt been to the house as yet but am waiting the ok, im going to stay there the night just to get the feel of the situation, the owner has not been back since the last episode and wont let me go until she says so . I will keep you posted and am hoping this happens sooner rather than later.
Zeus
now I know who to call when the ghosts come in.. no not the ghost busters, Fantailmoon!!
Fantailmoon
QUOTE (Zeus @ Dec 11 2007, 02:26 PM) *
now I know who to call when the ghosts come in.. no not the ghost busters, Fantailmoon!!

you are so cheeky
Rosemary
I would be interested in learning how a house is cleansed, and whether you can drive possessing spirits out of a human body if they challenge and refuse to leave?

And what happens to possessing Spirits once a cleanser or even Priest drives them out?

Are Possessing Spirits driven out of a human body that they possess and if yes how does this work, when no amount of prayer or threats works?

How does one go about these cleansings if the Spirits are sitting inside the human body and a priest won't agree to help?

I have personally tried everything.

Prayer, Bible Reading, holy water, burning sage and telling them to go towards the light, and nothing has worked.

The Demons I am dealing with were three of my realtives and Dr. Petas a Psychiatrist when he walked the Earth who have been sitting inside my body since l986 the first anniversary of his death challenging God and Jesus to prove they have dominance over them and the only way the Guides I am working with have to control them at this point in time is to tell them if they are inside my body when it dies they will be immediately destroyed once they leave but of course we can't prove the truth of this one way or the other until it actually happens and if it takes that long there will be no one on the keyboard to tell the world what the real truth is.
Fantailmoon
Rosemary i do sympathise with you but i dont know your whole story and why you call them Demons as they were living people in life, A Demon for me is a being who has not lived on the earth plane, what you have explained is channeling which is normally by your choice, i am not saying you are wrong just that this is how i have been led to believe, as for cleansing it will only work if the person is truly willing to participate and i wouldnt want to explain on a forum for all as this is a form of opening up to them and i dont want just anyone trying it, it can be dangerous.
Rosemary
They have labeled themselves Evil Spirits and Satans Followers and yes they have lived before but now they have said in the Spirit World they prefer to be known as Demons and I am not sure what the difference is except they say this is their free choice and they say they will never stop what they are doing unless God proves he has control over them and also proves that he can make them get out of my body.

They tell me all Demons are is Spirits who have walked the Earth who decide to follow the path of Evil in the After life.

Now Dr. Petas, Eve, carrie and George want their relatives on Earth to know they now reject God and have decided they are Demons and will fight god every step of the way.

Dr. Petas keeps saying he wants his family on Earth to accept this as his path in the Spirit World and one of the reasons for this is they would not accept that he was speaking to them from beyond the Veil of Death when he had me contact them back in the Eighties to send them his love and says their rejection of him sent him down the path of Evil.
Is this how you want this to read Dr. Petas?
I have now given Dr. Petas a chance to leave my body before I post this and if he doesn't then I will let it go as it reads.
My purpose for doing this is to try and force him to get out of my body and take his three friends with him.
Damien
be careful, my friend - but know there are us out here watching your back. I have an odd feeling about this entity you describe - sort of almost a deja vu. Keep us posted
Fantailmoon
i will deffinately be going in to this with my eyes wide open and my protection around me.
Damien
for some reason I am reminded if the shadows I used to see before my sister passed away... be very careful.
Fantailmoon
i will and thanks for the concern Damo grin2.gif
Demon Master
i would loke to know if there has been any update on rosemary's situation as this is an area in which i would call myself competant!! i have had dealings with spirit who have entered bodies through channeling and did not want to leave!! yes you can make them leave but as fantailmoon said you have to be a willing participant!! as for house clearances go they can be as easy as closing down properly or as difficult as a demon making a nuisance of it's self!! the latter being what i do best and also i agree with fantail in what she said about demons they ARE beings that have never walked the earth and never will!! the entities you are describing sound like spirits who are thriving off your fear!! DM.
Greygoat
Sadly, Rosemary does not seem to be willing to be helped - despite what she may say.
Many of us here strongly suspect a medical condition may be responsible for Rosemary's experiences.

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As a person who has never experienced anything I would consider paranormal, I would certainly be fascinated to see any evidence that you can gather Fantail.
Rosemary
QUOTE (Demon Master @ Jan 28 2008, 07:04 PM) *
i would loke to know if there has been any update on rosemary's situation as this is an area in which i would call myself competant!! i have had dealings with spirit who have entered bodies through channeling and did not want to leave!! yes you can make them leave but as fantailmoon said you have to be a willing participant!! as for house clearances go they can be as easy as closing down properly or as difficult as a demon making a nuisance of it's self!! the latter being what i do best and also i agree with fantail in what she said about demons they ARE beings that have never walked the earth and never will!! the entities you are describing sound like spirits who are thriving off your fear!! DM.


This is my update and as I find a solution I will make posts but for now I am not letting these spirits on the internet much to write because wea re at a standoff.

Because of the misconceptions that many have about the Spirit World I and these four have to clear up a few things about what others believe and what is true and what may not be true.

The first misconception that we have to deal with here is.

Many believe these are not the spirits of my realtives and Dr. P. and they believe that Demons are Spirits which have never walked the Earth but it is my opinion after what I have been dealing with that is not true.

These four are my three relatives and Dr. P. and they are not what you would believe to be demons as its explained to us in the bible and by those so called experts on these things, I have lived with and I have been dealing with it for more than 20 years and I know this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

As I wrote earlier these four decided to enter my body after Jesus appeared and a white haired man who says he is God and also after John and Robert F. Kennedy appeared to have me tell their story about what happened to them.

At that time I was also told I am a Walk-In and the Guides said I have been sent back to Earth at this time to help them write and educate people on the Paranormal and after that these three realtives said if I am a Walk-In then this body belongs to them and they should have been able to have it to return to earth as Walk-In's in it and at that time they and Dr. P. who as I said was a Psychiatrist when he walked the earth all climbed into this body on the First anniversary of his death and said they demand that my Spirit Get out and give them the body and ever since they have been abusing me trying to force my spirit out of this body.

I have tried to tell them while the spirits tell me I am a Walk-in and Spiritual Writer Ruth Montgomery and her Guides wrote about Walk-In's we have no absolute proof that Walk-In's are true because her books have Science Fiction slapped on them for Publication.

I said walk-In or not they have been trying to take this body over for more than twenty years and they have not succeeded and they will not succeed so they might as well come out and look for another body to try to take over if they can get away with it because theya re not getting this one.

I have pointed out to them again that while a Guide appeared and said he is God and said he has the power to destroy them as was written into the books published by Spiritual Writer Ruth Montgomery we have no proof that he can actually destroy a spirit and now he has told them if they are inside my body when it dies they will be destroyed immediately upon their exit and he showed us looks into the future where they are destroyed when they leave my dead body.

They are now so terrified of being destroyed because of what they have done to me that they hide inside my body and grow more vicious each day so now I am trying to talk them off the Ledge so to speak.

I have suggested that they leave my body quietly and just hang around watching television and things and I will write about our situation, and if they get up the courage they should play poltergeist and see if they can knock pictures off the wall as people believe and if they get bored with that they can go see if they can spook the neighbors and their pets and see if they go running.

I said and then as they get more courageous and they still want to challenge the Guide who says he can destroy them if they choose to they can then go to some of our relatives who don't believe this is happening to me and see what they can get away with as a way of proving to them they are alive and indeed have been doing to me and if they get away with this and a Higher power doesn't destroy them or haul their A... off to the Higher Realms of the Spirit World we will then call them researchers and they can do all the things theyc an get away with and I will write about it and we will then call it Paranormal Research and teach the things all I can prove to be true about the Spirit World.

So far they seem to be too timid tio do as I say and to cover up they are becoming more vicious against me so now I have taken to telling them if they don't do as I say they will not be on here writing much except for giving updates as I am doing now.

I have told them they need to teach other spirits if they want to communicate through humans they need to be nice to them or we will not turn the computer on for them or let them do automatic writing through us.

Maybe talking to them like this will help them see the light and if not then I am not going to be letting them write much here unless they learn to turn the Keyboard on themselves or learn to write to Earth without a Human to help them write and while I am not happy having to treat them this way so far I have found no other solution.

I have been in touch with a couple of so called famous Psychics who have no answer to my problem and choose to believe its not true and I think they refuse to tell the World the truth about evil Spirits because they don't want the truth to cut into their cash flow because if the World knows the truth as I have experienced it they might never have a reading by a Psychic and we know what that would mean.

Make no mistake what I write about my experiences as I interact with the Spirit world is the truth as I have experienced it and if any Psychic out there tells you this cannot happen don't believe them.

I set out to give the world the truth as far as Paranormal Research Goes and what I write will always be the absolute truth.

Now I am going to continue to try to negotiate these four out of my body today and hopefully they go along with this because otherwise I don't know how we will prove what happens to them if they come outside and do as they choose but I intend to find out.











Rosemary
QUOTE (Greygoat @ Jan 28 2008, 09:20 PM) *
Sadly, Rosemary does not seem to be willing to be helped - despite what she may say.
Many of us here strongly suspect a medical condition may be responsible for Rosemary's experiences.

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As a person who has never experienced anything I would consider paranormal, I would certainly be fascinated to see any evidence that you can gather Fantail.


Read my post this morning because I am trying to get the proof everyone needs that this is happening.

You may suspect this is medical but I assure you it is not and I am going to try to prove it, by talking these four out of my body and set them fourth into the world to help me prove just what is true and what is not true about the Spirit world.

So forget the Medical Condition because if I can talk these four out of my body and they decide to teach others what they can and what they cannot get away with they could be teaching people first hand what they can prove and help to convince them what I am writing is true and I will be writing about it as a Paranormal Researcher.

fiendo
i hope Fantailmoon comes and puts this thread back on topic..i see another derailment coming
and gives us an update as to what is happening...
so how goes it Fee?how about an update?
Rosemary
QUOTE (Fordo @ Jan 29 2008, 03:08 AM) *
i hope Fantailmoon comes and puts this thread back on topic..i see another derailment coming
and gives us an update as to what is happening...
so how goes it Fee?how about an update?


I am certainly not here to derail anything and my morning posts are in answer to those asking for an Update.

If you dear Fordo do not believe what I write hopefully when you do your little board Experiment one of your realtives or others in the Spirit World don't appear to you the way mine have after Dr. P. came in on our oujia board back in l985 after his death along with my three realtives and the Guides and these four decided they would try to sidetrack the good ideas I was getting from the others who wanted to do Paranormal Research through me and write good things.

Dr. P. is jealous I believe because of my formula that colors hair and keeps my hair from saying white, and he objects to the Guides and I telling the World back int he eighties that folic Acid will prevent birth defects after I asked what will prevent Spina Bifita and other birth defects.

Dr. P. who attended the famed Menninger Insitute said he is not going to let me get away with giving the World Medical Research after he had to go to school to learn these things and I am just an ordinary person l learning these things from a Guide in the spirit world.

Back before they attacked my brain i was capable of solving murders and giving the World medical Research Ideas and the Guides and i gave the World the Formula for Multigrain Breads back in the l980's and one of the Guides helped me pull my neice through Leukemia and cancerous tumors without radiation or Chemotherapy back in the Eighties and she is still here and going strong and cancer free.

These are the things Dr. P and my three relatives are trying to prevent me from sharing with the world.

Thanks to their attacks on my Brain I can no longer look for lost ships on the Ocean Bed and predict where they will be found and I am no longer able to mediate and go into foreign countries to do remote viewing to see what is going on the way I used to do.

Back in the Eighties I could spy on Government Operations and I was able to see Secret Satelites in the Sky and send the pages off to Washington and after that they put pictures in the paper and said up until now these were Top Secret but I could see them.

I guess Dr. P and his friends have accomplished some of the things they set out to do because at this point in time my brain is too exhausted to meditate on the things I used to and just the other day I was shown scratches all over my brain and I was told they are injuring your brain and that is why you can no longer do these things.

Now I am trying to talk them out to see if anyone in the Universe can punish them for what they have done to me and if no one does destroy them as they say then I will be writing about it.

Until they come out I am going to remove their typing privileges and will be writing here on occassion to give upsdates as to what they do when they go forth into the World to prove what they can get away with and if they are too chicken to come out and do that they will be losing their typing priveleges but hen someone asks I will put an update as to what is happening in this situation because I think theh world needs to know how this all ends so they know how to protect themselves from their angry Relatives and others in the Spirit world some who become demons.

These four say they are the ones who are telling the truth, that no onec an stop them and i say well if they want to continue to tell the world this and do it on my Keyboard they will have to come out and let me see how they behave outside this body then we will have what we need to prove this to the world beyond a shadow of a doubt.
fiendo
if you bothered to notice, but this thread isnt about you, suprise suprise!
you can start your own thread you know rosemary....or answer direct questions from certain members in a PM..
oh, sorry, i have gotten off topic again..whilst trying to keep on topic...hilarious...


Fantailmoon, i hope you really can give us an update on your progress..and if i may enquire,
what do you consider "protection"? and what type of trouble do you think you may run into?
Fantailmoon
well i am waiting some pictures from the woman taken a while ago , this apparantly shows a male shadow figure , so i hope to get those soon , also my protection is what i consider spiritual protection, i have guides and helpers there for this and i trust them , i have to go into something like this able to see the situation for what it is even if it dosnt turn out paranormal as some circumstances are man made, as very disturbed people can cause similar problems , which is why i am looking into the family background as well as the paranormal side of things, i have tried to get the woman who is having the trouble to let me into her house but she is still worried it will make things worse, but i am trying my best to get her to let me do something about this as i am worried for her and her family as i have already said moving may not solve this, only the other day she was going to call me and speak with me over the phone, even that didnt work as the call wouldnt go through, this is why i am worried as it obviously dosnt want me there, which to me means this is not a friendly spirit, i have dealt with similar things and have been subjected to attacks , both physically and spiritually this is the trouble i believe i am going to have so will have to be very careful and watch my back it obviously dosnt like my kind of people. i will keep you updated and fingers crossed i can get this sorted, and bring you back something. Fee x
Rosemary
QUOTE (Fordo @ Jan 29 2008, 06:28 AM) *
if you bothered to notice, but this thread isnt about you, suprise suprise!
you can start your own thread you know rosemary....or answer direct questions from certain members in a PM..
oh, sorry, i have gotten off topic again..whilst trying to keep on topic...hilarious...


Fantailmoon, i hope you really can give us an update on your progress..and if i may enquire,
what do you consider "protection"? and what type of trouble do you think you may run into?


I posted this morning in answer to someone who asked for an update on this situation and that is what I wrote about.
~♥~♥ASH♥~♥~
this is soo interesting smile.gif
ur very lucky to be able to do this
Demon Master
i would like to offer my assistance to fantail if she requires it!! i have had experiences of this sort and the extra energy which i can channel may help!! i believe thst she knows what she is doing and also it would be good to show proof!! so if you think that you may need any help in gathering thios evidence just ask!! DM.
Fantailmoon
QUOTE (Demon Master @ Jan 30 2008, 12:57 AM) *
i would like to offer my assistance to fantail if she requires it!! i have had experiences of this sort and the extra energy which i can channel may help!! i believe thst she knows what she is doing and also it would be good to show proof!! so if you think that you may need any help in gathering thios evidence just ask!! DM.

of course as help with these situations is good,and if i need it i will let you know. thankyou .Fee
Fantailmoon
i am sorry people i am leaving so wont be back to post any more information . Fee x
Rosemary
QUOTE (Demon Master @ Jan 29 2008, 07:57 PM) *
i would like to offer my assistance to fantail if she requires it!! i have had experiences of this sort and the extra energy which i can channel may help!! i believe thst she knows what she is doing and also it would be good to show proof!! so if you think that you may need any help in gathering thios evidence just ask!! DM.


If you are able to project energy over long distances as some can do in Remote healings and Viewings would you project some of that energy towards me in Toledo, Ohio and see if you can help me rid my home of the Negative Energies that I am dealing with that I have been writing about.

Any other healers out there who would like to help are welcome to experiment on me and my Situation.

One of my Guides in the past told me I have the power to heal people at a distance and I believed it but I have no way of proving any of that and if it was true that I could heal others I don't seem to be able to do it to myself and so I guess I am like a Doctor who needs to go to another source to find healings for myself.

The things I am suggesting are experimental of course and done for research purposes.

I have read in a Tabloid about a Psychic who has a column in the paper and he suggests each day at a given time that people join in a Group Meditation and Healing and perhaps some on here would like to participate in such a Group Psychic Experience and or Experiment.

I can see now I should have begun a new thread on this.

But on the other hand this is about helping a friend and see how to solve a Haunting Problem and so perhaps this is acceptable here after all.
Fantailmoon
QUOTE (123 @ Jan 31 2008, 04:06 AM) *
i am sorry people i am leaving so wont be back to post any more information . Fee x
After thinking about the situation i have decided to stay , i will bring you more updates as soon as i can and hope i can resolve this problem with the owner letting me in the house. Fee x
Cheryl
Are you sure that your friend is telling the truth about her situation. It seems like she is making a big effort to not let you in the house. I think she would be more than willing to give anything a try when her little kid is being harrassed by the entity and has been informed that it may follow them. Also, if she moved out what does she care?
Fantailmoon
she is telling the truth but finds people like me a bit strange and is genuinely frightened i may make it worse...as i have said before that when she mentioned me going there in conversation to her niece there was all sorts of problems and noises as it clearly dosnt want someone like me there...it is the niece who i am friendly with more and i trust her judgement alot as she wouldnt lie to me about what she has witnessed....we are still trying to persuade her to let me do something and i am genuinely worried for her. Fee x
KentuckyVelvet
I sure hope things go well for you Fee. I do worry, but of course you know what you're doing. I'll send up some extra prayers, unfortunately that's all I can do to help as I am about as psychic as lump of mud... happy.gif
Megs
I know it has been a few months - but I am curious, did anything actually come of this?
Jason KB
I am taking it nothing ever happened with this house you were going to cleanse?

Well, maybe you can cleanse another house and share your evidence of the paranormal with us sometime.
oh.really?
laugh.gif hope that u could share the pix and the EVP recordings.

just so be careful. smile.gif you can do it! thumbsup.gif
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