Ahh.....here we go...
Good Sammy and myself have decided to try a lil experiment using the much maligned Ouija board.....
quite simply, it shall be an attempt to see if any useful, insightful or even evidential (is that a word?) erm...evidence can be gleaned from the world of the "spirits"

there are a few bits i still need to thrash out, for the sake of scientific integrity, of course, but this expidition into the unknown unfortunately will be a trans-continental experiance....but that could be good for the sake of honesty..
so now to build a hypothesis, and plan exactly how this should pan out....
please feel free to add any surgestions and ideas you may have..the more the merrier...

*The only thing i shall be asking of the good GM family, is please limit the "warnings" i feel may be headed my way...please remember, the Ghoul-father and myself are consenting adults(hmm, sort of makes it sound dirty)

Onward!!!!

...yes, I'm looking forward to this test.
I'm thinking we should ask questions pertaining to one another that of course neither of us would know about..
< nothing too personal of course >

As Fordo said, Any suggestions from you GM family members are welcome.
I do understand that many of you would warn against using the Ouija board and I understand and respect your concern.
But like many others, I have used it before and haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary happening afterwords.
But I and I'm sure Fordo will take whatever precautions we feel necessary.

We don't know what...if anything will come out of this, but it should be interesting non the less.
So come on fiends, what sort of questions might we ask?..lets here em'

do you think we are being ignored here Sammy?
or are the masses too busy in the off topic swamp to come and play with us?
*sigh*
i guess i'll have to sit down and do my own dirty work......
i expect later critism from certain partys, who probaly will contain their opinions until after the event.
*deeper sigh*

i have one issue, should i ask specifically for a certain type of spook?or just any that would care to chat?
and what if i get the one spirit who lies about stuff? how to know?
it would represent a problem, trying to realise, if casper is lying, or just a dumbass.....

(also, i'm trying to take this seriously, but have a compulsion to start the sesion with "come to me my pale enchantress..."

Lmao...well Fordo..just don't ask that while im doing this with you...who knows what might happen...Hahahahaa..ummm ....yeah...don't ask that.

Providing of course We can get the ouija to work for us ..< i'v never tried it by myself....i'm sure that's some kind of "NO NO"..>
But I'm actually more interested in seeing somehow if it's not a spirit that is around you or I at the time that may contact us,
but if its something else connected with the board /contact/link to a certain kind of realm all together.
Maybe other worldly spirits or completely different entities ...maybe demonic...in which case they probably would lie about their true identities.
That's why I will use some kind of prayer for protection, and Command only spirits that will obey me..in the name of their Creator....or something....lol

And....im kind of surprised that at least a couple of peeps haven't made some kind of comment about our little experiment.
Maybe some are waiting to say
" I told you before to stay away from that thing....but Nooooooo...you wouldn't listen...< hmm...seems I heard that before..>

But yeah Ford...your probably right...some members forget that this is a "GHOST/Paranormal" site...

COME ON PEOPLE!!!....HELP us out here....

At the very least I thought Catsey might say...

Don't try it guys

sorry...friends...but it is kind of a let down that others don't have more input on topics other than the "Off Topic" page .
*sigh & sogh*

patience my fiends...my input to come very soon...**devilish smirk**

me loves this idea very much
...only don't have time to concentrate properly now...thanks to my GOATY mmm

oh jeez Sis....did you have to put that image in my head....

I would'nt say that sammy I have a few ideas.. hehe

...well lets hear em' kitten...don't be shy....

I'd like to participate in this...sorry I missed the thread....just so I'm clear, do you want me to give you a question to ask and without you knowing the answer, will rely what the "spirits" say on the Oujia ?

yes pucker, something like that....what do you have in mind?
Were open to suggestions

looks like no one is intrested Sammy me old Ghoul....
if i manage to get my back side motivated, i'll try to come up with a set of questions for us to work with..
failing that...i'll start a new thread, entitled" who should Fordo let himself be possessed by?"
that may provoke some community co-operation.....

cool. i'll be watchin closely. once you figure out how yer gonna do this im sure youll get plenty of suggestions.

are you asking specific quetions, or more open ended ones?

something's not clear for me here, my fiends...i see two ways of conducting the test, but in my point of view they cannot both be implemented into one experiment...although i guess in the end we wouldn't be able to say which method the results came from anyway...**sigh**

but to the point...

the first solution is about transferring information via a Ouija board, where your minds perform the role of an information transmitter...we're talking about so called telepathy, and that means NO ghostie is involved in the experiment, which is in this case about proving whether we have the ability of extra-sensory perception or not
the originality here consists in using Ouija board to 'reflect' the thoughts of the other person, and this i find very interesting...and tempting to try... **wink**
if this option is to be chosen, i suggest using the Zener cards or just simple symbols resembling those shown on the cards, as for a nice and easy start...
the 'sender' writes down each symbol he has chosen to be visualized for the 'receiver', who in turn records the names of the symbols that the Ouija board passes on to him <hopefully>, and of course anything unusual that happens with the board itself or in the place of experiment

the solution that i assume both of you have in mind though is about involving a ghost in the role of a transmitter of the information
in this case, assuming that there will be a ghost who reveals itself via Ouija board, the trick is about the nature of ghosts, which is unknown to us after all
the question is, what are the limits of a ghosts' abilities? can they reach every place on Earth like time and space doesn't exist? or are they rather attached to the place which for some reasons is important to them and do not leave the certain area under any conditions?
and IF we're basing on the assumption that they can cover any distance without a care of a time, how do you think it's easy to find a ghost that's willing to co-operate? i mean, after all, it's about him being a thoughtless messenger, whose role is only to pass the information between two people in the different parts of the world, and it is a purely charitable work
if i was a ghost, and if i agreed to use me this way, at least i would like some kind of reward....actually, me thinks that it would make a perfect situation for a specific, malicious kind of ghost to gain on you, by agreeing on the test without any conditions first, and maybe 'changing his mind' later...hehe

various other questions still run through my mind, but as for now, i leave you two with this to comment on...

I agree that it would be extremely difficult - if not impossible - to distinguish the action of a ghost from telepathy. Furthermore, Ockham's principle of taking the simplest explanation for any event would suggest the latter option because it removes the third party from the explanation. (I know CHUPA agrees with this 'cause we discussed it already.)

How might we distinguish the action of a ghost from telepathy?

by asking "it" for details about its self?
preferably something that can be checked?

Is there a way that a particular spirit can be singled out? In this way, maybe it'd be easier to check out for authenticity before beginning? May not be a viable experiment but just kinda thinking through the keyboard.
KV

thats cool KV,
at least you are helping

Yes...yes..yes...finally were getting something...
Chupa..your basically hitting on what I think I meant in post #4....lol

using the cards is a great ideal ,... In one of the test/questions
we could make our own cards consisting of numbers <since the board has numbers>
and have the board tell us what numbers the other has chosen.

And I think part of this test is to see if we can determine if it is a ghost/spirit that contacts us thru the board
or could it be something that is contacted only by methods like using the board..?

And who or what to ask for to come through the board is something that should be thought about also.......

Nope, no warnings from me - never had a problem with it! I'm pretty well grounded and ask for the proper protections, yadda, yadda, yadda - and poof! Bob's your uncle and Betty's your aunt - no worries - have fun! - ;Dale

A good read from big sister...
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=110528

What a weird article! It was really interesting to read, but I am still left kinda confused. I thought ouija boards were to communicate with the dead, not future beings......anyway, it was a good read, and pretty thought provoking.

This is another weird article about ouija boards connecting with beings other than deceased humans:

Alternate Dimension

It's a two parter:

Alternate Dimension Part 2

..well there's the rub babymomma, we don't really know what may be communicating through the Ouija board.
When I read that artical at "UM"...I was like....Yesss...that's what I want to explore..

Okay, I just don't know exactly what it is the two of you are trying to do. Are you two planning on using the Ouija board with Sammy here and Fordo across the sea and see if the two of you communicate at the same time with the same entitiy and confirm it with questions you want us to come up with?

actually, i had the idea that inciting a spirit to do anything would be nice...
but does anyone have any questions considered appropriate?
And Iwona, i gets your point, but i dont care if a ghost is feeling charitable or not, or if its not really a ghost at all, i just want a result....the idea of two similar experiments conducted at the same time is really just for controll purposes, and out of curiosity, seeing if we can gather the same answers...
more to come, must go eat cookies...

hmm..that was an intresting article...i searched the word "O-TALA-O-BUNTU" from when the investigators were talking to the neanderthals. the only results i got were the article which i already visited and the disscusion forums to that site, i think it might be a good idea to try and contact the one that called itself "mommy"
much of what mommy was saying was confusing to me....i didnt know anything she was talking about

...Not a bad suggestion "brunettechick", trying to contact "Mommy"....I thought that myself.
Did anyone else think mommy talked like a "Borg" from Star Trekk NG..?...lol

Hahaha! The way she talked was pretty confusing. But also, if you read the article comments, the guy who posted it is an authour, I believe, so for all we know, this could be a story he has thought up. Someone needs to video tape a ouija session. I am on the fence about ouija boards. I need some solid proof, (which is not likely to happen anytime soon, I'm sure). But until then, I guess I'll have to wait to hear the results from Sammy and Fordo's psycho--err, I mean PSYCHIC board project

ill google some videos of previous ouija board experiments and let u guys know

cool. Thanks Brunettechick! I think it would be pretty interesting to see.

we need to fast track this thing, methinks...
its time for a list..
what should we ask of the board?
(regardless of ghost/entity/daemon/thingo that is kind enought to respond...
no 1, the obvious, is there any one who is wiling to communicate?
2,if a yes answer, . Who are you?
NOW....anyone else care to chip in?

1. what's your name?
2. Are a friend or a stranger?
3. Are you female or male?
Anybody else?

1.why are you hear?
2.how long ago was ur death?

ummmm....?

- Are you planning on outsmarting me for your own benefits?

- Will you help me for the sake of it in improving my knowledge?

- Will I ever See you, even if I don't want to ?

- Have you ever talked to someone ELSE with the same methods I am using ?

- Are you an angry spirit or a happy spirit most of the time ?

-Where are you buried???-
Then you could research and see if there is such a person buried in that graveyard.

YEAH I FOUND IT YEAH I FOUND IT *dances in seat*...

I wanna do it, I wanna do it, can I plz, can I plz..
im old enough, I promise, though I may not seem like it right now, but really I am old enough...


can I plz, plz..........

...I think we got some good questions to ask, thanks everyone..

wickidgemini....it's ok with me if its ok with fordo, but remember...this isn't a game were wanting to play
although it should prove to be fun, we must be serious about conducting this experiment.

< im guilty of not acting My age quite often, like they say.."your only as young as you feel" >

Oh no, I understand what is going on, I don't take messing with the board lightly, I will do everything I need to do to have protection around me when this is conducted. I have a ouija board myself and used it from time to time, but never for entertainment, it is to serious to take lightly specially since I will be the only one using it at my location. In fact this will be the first time I have ever used it alone with out a friend of mine who I only use the board with so I am going to get some items from her that will help me out to protect me.
So yes I do understand what is going on.

So Fordo, can I? Can I? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The only thing I would request if I am allowed is if we can do this on a weekend so I don't have to worry about ending it because I have to go to bed and get some sleep for work...
If not that's ok I can adjust. Just let me know.
are we going to be conducting this through the web site, or email? IM??

....a weekend would be best for me also....but the time and date is still up in the air for now,
after all friend Fordo is in the "land down under"...which i think is about 12 hours ahead of U.S.

Im in Indianapolis and your in Texas which I thinks is a couple of hours ahead of Indy.
So there are a few bugs to work out, but we'll work it out by golly...
I'll most likely be performing this all by my lonesome also, but it would be nice to have a person to document
and write down our questions and responses as its happening.

And yes ..we probably should be linked together with IM or something we all have.

Ok fiends...I think were getting closer to making this happen, anymore takers out there who would like to join...
or maybe help out in some other way..?...

just wondering, there has been mention of "protection" by several peeps, and so far do warnings about the "dangers" our intrepid researchers are facing.....
does anyone care to comment?

What ever you believe you need protection around you, i was trained how to use the board but dont use it much as other direct ways are better, how to protect yourself , well firstly before you start you should ask that a protection is placed around you either in prayer or just asking however you believe, i do this by imaging a white light surrounding me as well as saying , please protect me in what i am about to do and then say thankyou, once on the board if something comes through always ask for it to make the sign of a cross as bad entitys dont like to do this. I hope this helps
Here is a web site for an online board:- http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/ouija.html

i have just used the board by myself and some wierd stuff happened, i had a person named Katherine through who died while climbing a mountain she claims this was murder. while i was doing this my phone kept turning itself on , this happened about 3 times i then put it on the side and it fell of there and into my drink, have no idea why it happened it was very odd.

I'm in guys

I was always told you want to make sure before opening the board that you put a circle of protection around you. This is really supposed to protect you from any evil spirits that may come through that want to harm you rather than talk to you. You can do this in many different ways and for each their own when it comes to this. I myself just ask for protection, and then have items that will help with that, such as candles, incents etc. My friend who is Wiccan actually gave me a protection prayer for me to say before I got started. I emphise more on this if I am doing this alone because I have researched for those who do it alone have a tendesy to be more valernable <sp> than when your with those who are mentally and spiritually strong enough to cast away the evil ones. *shrugs* again its all belief.
As going through with the ouija board, I am always polite and use my manners to let it be known that I am only there to just talk but I am thankful they chose to speak to me, it's a respect thing. And then in closing you are supposed to close the board, again this is only done in ones preference of how they want to do it, but in respect to the spirit person your speaking with letting them know your done and giving them their last chance to speak their mind. But also to cast another protection around you so that way you close the communication portal so no lingerin spirit stays behind to be mischievious.

Seems so ridiculous but I don't like taking chances, I am superstitious.

i totally agree with you and am also superstitious about these things, the way you explained is how i have been taught and it does work, you give it your respect and you get it back

I also have heard most of what " wickidgemini" has mentioned , which I had planned on using some of those anyways..
along with common sense.
Now I can not say what friend Fordo may do to prepare for this event, but im sure he'll have something in mind.

And thank you Ladies for all suggestions and concerns. As im sure we all know ..that For whatever reasons
many believe the board to be a portal as well as a way of communication.
It would seem most people as well as Several here at GM think its' nothing but evil, and want nothing to do with it.
I don't believe the Ouija to be evil, but something evil could come through..or try to.
Which is why I will ask and believe in some kind of protection

This experiment should prove to be entertaining if nothing else.
So please..feel free to make any serious suggestions or comments, and anyone wishing to participate without using the board
may be able to help in other ways.

I as of yet don't have someone here with me willing to participate...and I need someone to somehow document my occurrences.
Not sure exactly how that could be done, maybe through link ups or something<web cam/phone>..?
Any ideas..? That is of course if I don't find a partner here at home first..
btw..I asked the wife....she wants no part of it, actually im surprised she didn't object of me doing it.lol

hmm. so the board maybe a portal as well?
and if it lets something evil through?
will it be happy to find another evil entity waiting for it?
would that result in conflict, or hugs all round and a nice chat over a cup of tea?


*but back to the matter at hand..i have formulated some questions, that i'll post shortly for the critique of all and sundry.
As for preparation, the only precation i shall take will to be sober, and mostly awake.
more later...

As in someone taking notes, very good point......
I know another person that might be interested in it. This person is in another state VA but has a web cam, and IM as well, I have a web cam to that I can hook up, I probably could talk to him and see if he's willing. If all else fails and we don't have a volunteer I could get my daughter to do it for us as well. But would prefer an adult if all possible. Tell the wifey she only needs to take notes, she doesn't have to participate. Just kidding don't want her mad... :-D

Thanks for the offer Wickid-G,
although it might actually be a good idea if someone from outside of GM were to help me with this,
I don't want it to be a hassle either... or make things complicated if not necessary.
And I certainly wouldn't want to involve your daughter, especially if she's still a minor.
But I Do appreciate your involvement in wanting to help out.

After I gave it some more thought, it occurred to me to document this the old fashion way...with an audio cassette recorder..lol
I have a little boom box that records, plus there's the possibility of maybe catching some kind of EVP's.
It's not a digital recorder, but evp's were captured before their were such things as digital recorders.

I would be interested in the protective prayer that your Wiccan friend gave you,
as well as what type of candles to use..( if their not expensive & easy to find)

And ..Hah..I asked the wife again if she would help out, but still no go..and now she doesnt like the idea of me doing it in our home..
but oh well...hmmm..maybe she might be possessed by a nympho..lol...ok... sorry... that wasn't nice of me...but again..Oh well...
Thanks again, and any suggestions are welcomed and will be taken into consideration

Friend Fordo..I would think anything that can be contacted/communicate through the board may also have the ability to
use us/the ouija board as a doorway/portal, which is why one should tell the spirit or entity to leave when finished
and then close the session so as not to leave the door open...so to speak.
Also..seriously...if an evil entity was to make contact, IMO it would most likely be stronger if the user was also evil.
But I don't believe that you are truly evil.

First thing, I can send the email to you that she sent to me of all the information on it. Things she tells me I could buy or use are things fairly reasonable in price. There is a couple of things in there that you may have to go to a specialty store to purchase or there are places online that your able to purchase it through, that's what she does. But I will forward the email to you that she sent to me if your email is posted on your profile, if not let me know what it is.

Having my daughter do it, I am not comfortable with it at all because she is a minor, so that is an EXTREME last resort.

On the wifey thing..... really no comment on that except for "Good Luck with that". LOL