Berserk Fury
Oct 6 2007, 08:30 PM
Ghosts may not spook home buyers
Sites of murders or suicides often sit on the market, but reports of friendly apparitions don't seem to scare some people.
By Holden Lewis, Bankrate.com
Oh, no, not the attic. Anywhere but the attic. But the visitors insisted on going in.
The house's owner reluctantly opened the attic door and stepped aside as her two visitors trod into the gloomy room.
"All I know is we walked into the attic with her, and it's cavernous, and we were just looking hard, and, I don't know, this feeling came over me -- this warm feeling," Craig Schaible says. "I looked at my wife and she felt it, too."
Craig and Yvonne Schaible were thinking of buying this 111-year-old Victorian house on a tree-shaded street in Fanwood, N.J. The owner had grown up in the house and was trying to sell it now that her parents had died. But an uncanny presence threatened to scare away buyers and drive down the house's value. The owner had not yet told the Schaibles about the mysterious sounds and frightful sights that unnerved her -- and terrified her husband.
"We were walking out of the attic," Schaible says, "and my wife said, 'Any ghosts?' And the lady said, 'Well, yeah.' We were like, 'Cool, tell us about it.'"
The owner didn't go into much detail. She said people had seen and heard things over the years. "We said we kind of think of it as a positive thing," Schaible says. The Schaibles decided then and there to buy the eight-bedroom house, a fixer-upper built in 1890. They paid the asking price.
Ghosts can add value
If you think ghost stories make a house less valuable, you might be right -- most of the time. But not all the time. The Schaibles weren't your typical house buyers. They were living in a two-bedroom town house and were looking for a big, old Victorian house to restore. As soon as they stepped through the pair of 8-foot-high front doors, they knew this house was the one. Furthermore, the Schaibles are famous among their friends for elaborate Halloween bashes they hold every other year, complete with caskets in the rooms and a hand sticking out of the punch bowl.
The ghost stories about the house "made it completely more valuable," Schaible says. "Would I pay more money for a haunted house? No. The decision to buy the house was based on the house itself." But, he adds, the spectral tales "juiced it up. The fact that the Halloween people bought a haunted house was so funny -- too perfect."
Source of Article: RealEstate.MSN.com
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Chupa
Oct 6 2007, 10:35 PM
uhm, that's quite reasonable to claim that there are people for whom a haunted house is not an obstacle of any kind...
c'mon...i'm sure there are many of you here who would joyfully seize an opportunity to buy a house that has an additional resident...am i right?
Cheryl
Oct 8 2007, 07:15 PM
Oh, definitely!

However, I may have tried to use that to my advantage to lower the asking price a bit.
SammyTerry
Oct 9 2007, 12:43 AM
Same here...<like that old red house I would like to purchase>
Although it might be cool to have a ghostly visitor in our home, <which I think I did..and may still have>
I wouldn't want something there that may become a nuisance.
Having your keys turn up in a strange place is one thing,
but being woke in your sleep by something would get on my nerves...HaHaa....
Rosemary
Oct 9 2007, 08:50 AM
I personally believe the problem with homes develop if the home was owned by someone for a long time and they fixed it just the way they want it to be and look and after death they decide they are going to stay right there, then someone buys the house or moves in that they dislike on first site and to make matters worse they begin to change everything and of course the people who move in may be completely different personalities and live a different lifestyle than the original people and they don't like what is happening and they set out to get rid of those people so they can have things the way they used to be.
And of course it could be things are even more disturbing if someone was murdered in the home and the culprit was not caught and the Spirit of the dead is trying to make themelves known to the residents so they will hopefully help them seek justice and all they are getting from the residents is ghost stories and jokes then the spirit might get very frustrated and angry and when people call in priests to have them evicted things could go from bad to worse.
Hades
Oct 9 2007, 03:02 PM
Well, im not to sure about that. I mean, the ghost is there still haunting the place. The buyers of the house could notice it, but that could be after they settle in and get accustomed to their new house. I believe that the ghost will only really revel itself if it wants to or if something the new owners are doing makes the spirit upset, unless its a residual haunting, those things don't have a clue about whats going on. Another thing, i really don't think that a house would be more expensive because its haunted. For any case i think that they should lower the price depending on how bad it is.
Regency
Oct 13 2007, 03:30 PM
I wouldn't like to live in a haunted house, though I would like know that ghosts exist
Zeus
Oct 14 2007, 09:15 PM
oh dear.. I can see them using this ghost on halloween as a tourist local attraction.. lol
Rosemary
Oct 15 2007, 07:54 AM
I believe people need to know that many homes have spirits living in them and some show themselves and some don't.
I believe after a person dies they may not leave the home at all but their spirit may continue to live there and even when the house is sold or rented out they still consider it their home and sometimes don't like the intruders then the problems start.
These are the things that lead to possessions.
If the Spirits don't like the Occupants and they begin appearing and doing things to scare the occupants into moving so they can have their house all to themselves things get mean.
If at that time in a situation like this the occupants won't move and all the scaring and appearing to them doesn't work keep in mind at that time if they choose to the Spirit can enter the body and take it over as a true possession and interferre in all aspects of the peoples life.
They can lay dormant within the body and not even let the person know they are there but decide to conceal themselves and go everywhere in the body and influence their spending and their relationship with their spouses and others and the possessed may not even know what is happening.
Then suddenly the person begins hearing voices in their heads telling them to do something that is not nice and they become afraid of their own thoughts and seek out a Psychiatrist who believes they are having a mental problem and they try to mask the voices and bad thoughts with medicine and the poor person may never know what is happening to them and they suddenly in the eyes of their family and friends become their family mental misfit.
By now they can't find a Priest or a Deliverance minister to help them because they have the Psychiarist in their life and so the Priest will just say well that is the cause.
You don't have to dabble in the paranormal to have this happen, but sometimes when someone dabbles in the paranormal they learn early on what is happening to them and they can write and talk about it to educate others if they will only listen.
Cheryl
Oct 15 2007, 05:34 PM
Really and truly. Never, ever, ever have I ever heard of a spirit wanting you to leave the home and then taking over your body if you fail to do so. Come on...
Rosemary
Oct 16 2007, 06:58 AM
QUOTE(Cheryl @ Oct 15 2007, 01:34 PM)

Really and truly. Never, ever, ever have I ever heard of a spirit wanting you to leave the home and then taking over your body if you fail to do so. Come on...

My Story tells you that, and It happened in the house where the Amityville horror happened, those murdered Spirits did just what people say they did and that is what I am talking about, it happened to the little boy that the Exorcist Movie was based on.
We have to take the subject of the story and remove some of the Hollywood Hype that is put into the movie to make it more exciting because dealing with these situations are reality and not just Hollywood Hype.
When Reality smacks you in the face in these situations and when you experience the things I am writing about and others have experienced then you will believe but until these things happen to someone and they have first hand experience then its difficult to believe because of the attitudes of many about the Paranormal.
The main reason for peoples attitudes is they all believe when a person dies their spirit leaves their body and Angels Sing and trumpets toot them straight up to heaven.
That may be true in some cases and I won't know the absolute truth until one day I go there but from my personal experience and from the experiences of some others sometimes our relatives and enemies and others hang around us for years causing trouble and if they choose to hang around in a house they are familiar with and not leave for fear of what they will find Higher up then they can hang around and cause all sorts of problems for a lot of people and the sooner people are educated to the real truth the sooner they will let go of those old misconceptions they have been taught from birth.
My reason for telling my experiences is to tell others when you dabble in the Paranormal it seems exciting and there is much wonderful information to be gathered from a place called the Akaskic Records and some nice Guides who continue to work with me but so far even the Keeper of the Akaskic Records and the Magical Reservoir of Knowledge ,and my Guides have not been able to talk or force my Evil Relatives and Dr. P. to back off and go to to other parts of the Spirit World and I believe if this could happen to me it might be happening to many others and if and or when it does I want people to believe them so they can get the help they need for those on the earth Plane who claim to be exorcists and or Deliverance Ministers.
What I'm trying to prove is Can an Exorcist Priest or a Deliverance Minister really force Spirits out of a Human Body?
Well I am waiting right now for a Deliverance Minister to make a decision on my Case then we will see what Happens if they get back to me again.
fiendo
Oct 16 2007, 07:46 AM
i dont know about deliverance ministers et al....but some of these posts are driving my spirit out of my body..
Rosemary
Oct 16 2007, 08:03 AM
QUOTE(Fordo @ Oct 16 2007, 03:46 AM)

i dont know about deliverance ministers et al....but some of these posts are driving my spirit out of my body..

Thats because some people can't deal with the truth about things they find frightening or unpleasant so we just hide our head in the sand and refuse to believe until something like I write about jumps up and bites you in the behind.
Hades
Oct 16 2007, 02:53 PM
Can I get an AMEN for that? I can agree, thats what people do everyday. The human race has a tendency to be naive, we just kind of brush it off like dirt. We know that there is a war or a flood going on and we just ignore it, hoping the problem will resolve itself.
Cheryl
Oct 16 2007, 06:56 PM
QUOTE(Rosemary @ Oct 16 2007, 06:58 AM)

My Story tells you that, and It happened in the house where the Amityville horror happened, those murdered Spirits did just what people say they did and that is what I am talking about, it happened to the little boy that the Exorcist Movie was based on.
Wasn't this story proven to be a hoax?
Rosemary
Oct 17 2007, 12:02 PM
It may have been proven to be a Hoax by some Skeptics but I don't think anyone who knows anything abut the Paranormal would not believe these things could happen and in fact no doubt happened as those angry murdered Spirits wanted to let the world know how they felt about what happened to them.
The Reason spirits like that haunt in the first place is they are trying to get through to people on Earth to tell them how they feel and after they adjust better to the Spirit World they may or may not feel better.
But in any case I doubt that they would ever leave their home.
Rosemary
Oct 17 2007, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(iwona @ Oct 6 2007, 06:35 PM)

uhm, that's quite reasonable to claim that there are people for whom a haunted house is not an obstacle of any kind...
c'mon...i'm sure there are many of you here who would joyfully seize an opportunity to buy a house that has an additional resident...am i right?
Do you think there is hope for me on selling this house if my four Spirits agree to get out of my body and remain in the house?
I don't know if I should advertise the house with them inside for more or less.
I did notice on another paranormal website they are advertising haunted houses for sale just like any real estate sale and I guess the magical part on that site to the haunted house is it might be more valuable to those who want to get closer to the paranormal.
fiendo
Oct 17 2007, 12:39 PM
hows about i just purchase your ghosties , but not the house? name your price....
fiendo
Oct 17 2007, 12:42 PM
QUOTE(Rosemary @ Oct 16 2007, 06:03 PM)

Thats because some people can't deal with the truth about things they find frightening or unpleasant so we just hide our head in the sand and refuse to believe until something like I write about jumps up and bites you in the behind.
belief , somehow, doesnt equate to anything i may fear, and i dont find much "unpleasant".....should i bear my behind for biting?
Cheryl
Oct 17 2007, 05:20 PM

For the love of all things...Fordo, keep your behind covered up!
Cheryl
Oct 17 2007, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(Rosemary @ Oct 17 2007, 12:02 PM)

It may have been proven to be a Hoax by some Skeptics but I don't think anyone who knows anything abut the Paranormal would not believe these things could happen and in fact no doubt happened as those angry murdered Spirits wanted to let the world know how they felt about what happened to them.
The Reason spirits like that haunt in the first place is they are trying to get through to people on Earth to tell them how they feel and after they adjust better to the Spirit World they may or may not feel better.
But in any case I doubt that they would ever leave their home.
Do you really think that people who die have nothing better to do than become hell bent on the mission that must prove to the living that there is life after death and that they must become ghost missionaries to the living because we need to learn to adjust to becoming dead and what happens afterwards. I assure you, I for one am no idiot and I think I can handle dying and moving on and what takes place hereafter just fine. I am pretty sure afterwards I wouldn't spend eternity trying to connect the living in the manner you imply that spirits do.
I also believe in the paranormal. This does not mean that one that believes in the paranormal should then therefore believe every story that comes about in regards to the paranormal is true. The Amitiville house story just happens to be that....a really good story. I do believe that this was proven to be a hoax.
{MoG} Blue Screen of Death
Oct 18 2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah The person who started it all admits its a fake (but he did kill a guy)
But still It depends on whether or not the ghost will make much noise or bother me much But I am always looking for a worthy gaming adversary maybe I could teach the ghost
Hades
Oct 26 2007, 02:58 PM
Well, if it wants your attention, it will get it, either if it has to break some plates or throw a book at your head. Gaming ghosts? What will you think of next MOG?
Berserk Fury
Oct 26 2007, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (EvanParant @ Oct 26 2007, 10:58 AM)

Well, if it wants your attention, it will get it, either if it has to break some plates or throw a book at your head. Gaming ghosts? What will you think of next MOG?
If i gotta live with a ghost.. it better be one that mixes me bloody marys and switches the TV to the right channel for me.. and turns up the heat to the proper level in the middle of the night.. that'd be the ultimate ghost.. That and something I could unleash on my unwelcomed relatives everytime they try to bother me.. muahahaha..
yeah.. i forgot I started this topic.. *Crawls away*
Hades
Nov 28 2007, 03:41 PM
oh ya, like its just gonna change the channel just for you or do anything just to please you. It might work if it were a butler ghost but i really don't think that ghost care about what we would like or want.
Berserk Fury
Jan 5 2008, 05:47 AM
QUOTE (EvanParant @ Nov 28 2007, 10:41 AM)

oh ya, like its just gonna change the channel just for you or do anything just to please you. It might work if it were a butler ghost but i really don't think that ghost care about what we would like or want.
Well, why not? I'll simply blackmail it. If It doesnt serve me the way I want to be served, I'll just call our dear friend Rosemary to come and absorb it.. i'm sure it'd be right at home with the various spirits that inhabit her.
*gets in the trenches and prepares for war*
Hades
Jan 17 2008, 04:17 PM
i believe that spirits like the bloody mary cannot be controled over. This spirit would probably would only take out your eyes rather than doing your dirty work. How could you backmail it? it dosen't have anything of value and I don't believe that it would have any relationships that you could use against her. Trying this would probably end with your bloody destruction.
chrisfer
Jan 31 2008, 08:19 AM
Ok, I've pondered some responses and have to ask, is there any instance of the "same" ghost haunting different places? Because I've lived in several places at different times that I've been quite happy at. I'd like to haunt all of them when I pass.
Rosemary
Jan 31 2008, 09:20 AM
QUOTE (chrisfer @ Jan 31 2008, 03:19 AM)

Ok, I've pondered some responses and have to ask, is there any instance of the "same" ghost haunting different places? Because I've lived in several places at different times that I've been quite happy at. I'd like to haunt all of them when I pass.
I believe in most cases the haunting takes place against the person but even as as I begin to write this one of my Spirit Guides says think about that.
Alright the home may be inhabited by spirits who lived there in the past and they may still be living there and they may not like someone who has invaded what they call their home and this could bring on a haunting.
In my case however something different is true.
In my case three of my relatives and a man I knew before he died decided to torment me and they chose the first anniversary of his death to do that and over the past 21 years they have followed me from house to house and from apartment to apartment and finally to the home I bought 14 years ago and they are still here.
They say they are doing this until I find a way to prove I can get rid of them and I have tried everything including trying to cleanse the house and also pray to a Higher Power and nothing has worked.
How these things are solved I am not sure, but it may be that we have to try to talk them out.
So far it hasn't worked in my case and so I have had to resort to posting their story on the Internet so their families will possibly read it and see how theya re spending their time in the after Life but so far they say they don't care what they think all they are doing is see if there is a way for them to be eradicated from the home and they are trying to continue to prove how and if I solve the problem and they say if nothing works they will be with me until the day I die.
I said well if that is your attitude then I will be writing about you until the day I die and write about you for Research purpioses.
I have contacted many research groups hoping they might be able to use this experiment to further our understanding of spirits and life after death but so far no one much seems to believe or care about what I am writing or experiencing because its hard to prove these things to be true.
chrisfer
Jan 31 2008, 05:06 PM
well I don't intend to torment anyone, just visit my favorite places
SUPERKICK
Jan 31 2008, 05:36 PM
Well do try the afterlife first, may be interesting thing over there...
Already too many ghost sightings in this world, taking up precious time of people that could be spent playing football, and discussing on some board like AccurateKick-Mysteries.com
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