Hopefully, everyone reading this will have some knowledge as of what a K-2 is. If not, let me explain. The K-2 detects magnetic energy fields in an area. The K-2 is supposted to pick up the magnetic energy being emitted from a spirit. Some people have been actually training spirits to give off certain amount of energy to ask the spirit in the area simple "yes or no" questions. I was watching the Ghost Hunters show on YouTube, when they went to Hollywood to check out a house that is said to house the spirits of the people killed in the Manson Family Massacre, and there is this part when they bring out a K-2 at 2:42 in the clip and then again at 5:13. The link is below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCATMab-7gg

I would just like to know everyones opinion on this device an its authenticity

Thanks

PS, Its great to be back!

Very interesting! Seems like a modern day ouija board to me.




Edited: because I just can't figure out how to spell ouija.

I'm leaning toward yes.
although I want to know more about how it works
Like I said in another thread,
Their thumb is always at the same place, and it could be a button of some sort.
idk. I'd have to use it for myself to be fully convinced.

I think they really do work, am I right? Who knows,if they do they need to use them more.

Don't worry about it, i don't remember how to spell it either. I have a problem with them through. Its possible that they sometimes opens up a portal from the spirit world to our world, so I think they could be dangerous.

If that's true about the ouija board. Wouldn't that also be true about any device used to communicate with the spirit world?
Even this one?

No, the ouiji board is an instrument associated with dark energies, or so im told. Any electronic device like the K-2 isn't capable of making a portal.

I think its a possibility, although I don't like the EMF detectors they were using in there. I have used those, and they require that you keep your thumb pressed down on them. If your grip relaxes and is re-applied (conciously or not) the lights all light up, looking like a spike in the reading...

I didn't know that, thanks for the info Gigan!

I didn't know that either.
That's why I'm not certain about the K-2
they could have barley moved their thumb and caused it to go off.
Thanks for the into Gigan!

Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying they deliberately did it, but I used the same model on an investigation in Orlando, Florida, and they were a pain in the butt to be honest!

can u explain why they were G?

see post #8 Evan

ya, u told me that they were a pain in the butt but in what way was it causing trouble?

Oujia boards can be frightening to those who are just getting into this but I believe everyone should know its my experience that those communicating with us via the board sometimes are mean and frightening and sometimes nice and angelic, but whatever they choose to behave as I believe the Spirits who communicate with us on the Board are the spirits of our dead ancestors and others we have known who come in to have a little fun in some cases by frigthening us.

I believe this is why we are told to be nice and mannerly or we might get a Spirit who decides to teach us a lesson by being mean or having a bit of fun with us by pretending to be a Demon who can take over and do all sorts of things.

In the beginning I too was terrified of the board and threw it away many times and even now I don't use it because I don't need it to communicate I just talk to them as though they are visitors to my home because I know now thats where they are.

Rosemary, do you believe that oujia boards can cause a formation of a portal from the living world to the spirit world?

$125 anyone??

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ghost-Hunters-Dead-Fam...tem180141215282

Really? No way!

I WANT ONE!!!!!

shouldn't we all?

I personally don't like them that much. For $30 there is a perfectly good emf detector available from most online 'Ghost Hunter' stores.

ya, but the problem with emfs detectors are that they pick up every electrical source, so i wouldn't really rely on it for firm evidence.

Yes, I agree with you Evan.
I'm not a big fan of the EMF's because of the chances of picking up an alarm clock.
But they do help sometimes, when it's in the center of the room (or away from electrical objects) and the readings fluxate frequently.

true, but then an investigator worth their salt should be aware and eliminate false positives before resorting to esoterical reasons for other sources of EM energy. Truth be told, we currently don't have anything that gives firm readings to provide firm evidence, as we still don't know what we are measuring... we are assuming a lot, and proving very little, which is why this field is somewhat looked down upon by the scientific community.

I have to agree with u big G. Yes, we are assuming things and getting little answers, but thats not going to stop us now is it?

Yes.
My Relatives when we get together all get on the board and talk to those in the Spirit World and its kind of like a family reunion.
Those in the Spirit World know when we get together and they join us in a kind of family reunion.

EvanParant
ya, but the problem with emfs detectors are that they pick up every electrical source, so i wouldn't really rely on it for firm evidence.
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I agree with "G" here,
in some cases "Ghost Hunters" will do an EMF sweep of rooms or locations
and log all readings before doing the actual investigating...

i have to agree with you there, but I wouldn't really use it to find evidence

Your right Evan, one really can't use an EMF detector to find evidence or prove anything paranormal.
But if an investigator does an emf sweep first, like I mentioned then they have something to go by
Just like COLD or Hot spots, they cant prove anything but added with emf readings, evps and
personal experiences...they can help back up a supposed haunting.

its not that I have a problem with emf detectors, but i haven't really accepted them as i do with the thermal cam or the K-2. I rememeber when I first saw it on Ghost Hunters, they were at this lighthouse and they used it to follow spikes up the spiral stairs. Im still kind of skeptic but I think that they have some importance

Exactly..they can help verify what may be "felt"..for now that's about it
And yes the thermal cam is great..! it can be used in so many different ways....

i have to agree, but when ur doing a scientific investigation, u can't always rely on feelings

So true Evan, just because you have a feeling that something is there doesn't mean there is.

actually by"Felt" I meant cold spots and such...not personal feelings ....

Sammy, were talking about electric fields, not temperatures.

Evan, you do Sammy an injustice.

By using an EMF detector in conjuction with temperature readings Sammy is providing independant evidences of a phenomenon. If both methods indicate something is present at a particular position then the two data sets reinforce each other - it's good science not poor understanding by Sammy.

The EMF detector might indicate something present, but what it indicates can be miss leading. You could think that u are picking up a high emf but actually ur finding energy from a electrical box in the wall or picking up electrical currents from the cords. The K-2 does have some flaws similar to the emf, but i can agree with some professionalism, u can use both very effectivly. I wouldn't depend on the K-2 as much as i would a thermal camera, but if i was dealing with an intellectual haunting i would use it, the EMF detector i would use to some degree and would classify anything i found to be lighty weighted evidence.

IMO there aren't many Emf meters worth their asking price. yes i use them but i use them to pinpoint emf from any source as i am a firm believer that emf actually causes people to have a paranormal experience rather than the popular belief that spirit cause emf fluctuations.

The data i get from them is next to useless in so far as i can tell how intense a field is, but not what frequency the field is so we cant look for other frequency fields rather than picking up the 50Hz in UK (60Hz US i believe) mains hum that in the calibrated frequency range of most if not all emf meters. knowing what frequency a field is would be so helpful in identifying what frequency field is more likely to cause a "paranormal experience".

However, finding Hot spots and mapping where experiences happen to see if any locations coincide is valid so worth doing.

And just so we stay on topic i don't think its any better than any other emf meter on the market but some of the reports say its a low end set of electronics and has numerous faults.

Also if its a single axis meter a slight movement of the meter can change the reading, personally i think they are too overused in this field and lots of people misuse them.

Personally i don't believe they are contacting spirit as that would mean belief in ghosts, and i don't.

I definitely wouldn't want one. I will stick with my trusty tecpel.




**Runs off to don flame retardant clothing**

Apologies if this doesn't make any sense, just getting over Flu.....i may still be rambling on like a loony

Makes perfect sence Crosis..
and thanks Greygoat..that's exactly what I meant.

Plus I would think any experienced Ghost Hunter does an EMF sweep..before they do the actual investigation.
And I have read/seen where EMF's may cause some to experience strange phenomena.
Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried emitting high emf's just to see if they can create a paranormal experiance.

intresting idea you give me Ghoulish one...altering the environment to "create" a ghost..probally been done before...let me think...

To investigate EMF frequencies th following item could be handy:

http://www.lessemf.com/probe.html

it can be hooked up to a laptop - the software for analysing frequencies comes with the adapter cable

I was wondering the same thing. Wouldn't it be strange but really intresting if people could create the enviroment to cause hauntings? Think of it kind of like habitats at the zoo for animals, but in this case, were having a spirit being housed in a contolled habitat. I think its quite possible to "create" a ghost friendly enviroment, but to actually get the ghost might be a problem, and I wouldn't really be one to suggest the use of any ouiji boards.

Excellent idea!
and Evan, you may not suggest the use of a oiuja board...but in the name of paranormal investigation, I'm happy to have a crack at it...he he..
but what i was thinking, and i do recall reading somewhere about a "manufactured" ghost..but i need to start a new thread..shall do that....

manufactured? like the ghost is not real or do u mean somebody killed someone on purpose and trapped his spirit somewhere? Seems kinda cruel! That sounds like a cool movie or something. For an experiment, a volunteer gave up his life to become a ghost, now that would be a movie that i would pay to see.

I didn't suggest the ouiji boards because u never know what will happen or what u will release, but if it were in the name of paranormal science, i would actually would use one, but i would take precautions to make sure that the experiment wouldn't turn for the worst. I dont think that it would be that expensive to actually find a out-of-the-way plot of land with a decent sized house where we could proceed with the experiment. I think if nobody tries that until im older, i going to get a few people together and try it out and record everything.

The K2 meter is an EMF detector. If other emf detectors aren't affected, then the K2 shouldn't be either. I don't believe this to be a "ghost communicator" because you can't train a spirit to interact with you. That's just my opinion & right now the group I'm with is currently testing this theory. We've purchased 2 k2 meters & testing them for the next 6 months.

Have you begun the testing yet?

I know that you cant train a ghost, but it depends on what kind of haunting your dealing with, either 'repetitive' or 'intellectual'. If its repetative, it probably wouldn't work if you tried to communicate with it, but if it were intellectual, it would probably understand your communication and instructions.

I don't believe that a spirit will give you yes or no answers through the K2. Being a residual haunt or intelligent. If you have the K2 & then another emf detector next to it, if something was affecting the K2 it should also affect the other emf detector. We started testing this theory & we'll continue to test for another 6 months or so.

well, when during a ghost hunt, the investigators usually explain to the spirit what they want it to do, and explain how to communicate with them, such as make this device flash twice for yes and once for no. If it was a residual haunting, it wouldn't be aware of its surroundings and does anything regardless of who's there.

That's how we're testing it. Using the K2 to get yes or no answers but we also use other emf detectors next to it (digital, electro sensor). If the K2 starts blinking then the other emf detectors should be affected since they're both used to measure EMF.