'Exorcist' doctor is banned
July 13, 2007

A DOCTOR has been suspended over claims she prescribed an EXORCISM for a patient.

It was alleged Dr Joyce Pratt, 44, told the woman patient she was a victim of witchcraft and had an evil spirit moving in her.

A General Medical Council hearing said it was impossible to know what happened in the consultation at Westside Contraceptive Services in Westminster, London.

But a panel said Dr Pratt did not co-operate with the probe into the claims. She was banned from practising medicine for six months for professional misconduct.

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I'll go get the popcorn...

LOL i know who would defend this poor woman
nice find!

I have to say it: What a Prat!

You are right I would defend this Doctor because the only way a Priest will give anyone an Exorcism is to have a doctor like this say they need one.

Here is a Doctor who is not questioning whether the woman is psychotic but believes in these things and has suggested that an Exorcism might help her.

Whether this woman has a curse or not I do not know, but I know that my experiences are real and the Spirits have me up before four a.m. this morning discussing all sorts of things in the Universe.

There are many secrets in the Universe that need to be solved and Doctors and Scientists who behave as this board has who barred the Doctor from helping the patient are just the kinds of people who are setting back Paranormal Research by trying to control the thoughts and actions of others.

If this patient who is paying the Doctor to help her wants to deal with a Doctor who believes as she does and they are hurting no one else then I think the board should leave her alone.

There are Several Psychiatrists who now believe their patients with multiple personalities are dealing with Possessions and thes Psychiatrists are shunned by many of their peers but I applaud these forward thinking Psychiatrists because I consider them trailblazers into the future.

Take my case for example I have gone to my Family Practitioner for years and of course like in many businesses some retire and new ones take their place and we discuss my medical conditions and I look like any normal person and they never know that four Spirits are inside my body and we just talk about normal things and not one of them has ever discussed me being strange.

The other day I was thinking to myself what would happen if on my next visit coming up I had a talk with my Doctor and ask him what he thinks of my behavior as far as my mental state and rationality goes and after he tells me that I have no problem along that line, I then explain my Possession Problem and ask him to refer me to a Priest for an Exorcism.

Well now that I have read this story I can see how that would work out so thanks for posting that now I know I need not approach my medical Doctor and proceed with my idea because the poor man would no doubt be stopped from practicing medicine if he did recommend an exorcism.

actually, wonderful how you have used this to make an excuse not to talk to your doctor.
if he did recomend an exorcism, how could he get into trouble? unless you complained about his advice...as most likely happened in the case cited by the wise Ms Luna.
very smooth RC!have you not thought that there is doctor/patient confidentiality laws in most part of the western world?
Why do I bother commenting? maybe its something to do with the fact I'm concerned that somewhere there is a Lady who needs help, and may potentially be a danger to herself or others.(especially as you have decribed the problems you have whilst driving)
My coments to you and your claims also have nothing to do with if or not i personally belive in God,Gods, spirits, leprechauns,Flying piggies or communisim, as i have never stated one way or the other my beliefs on this site.I do however, think only a very guillible person will belive everything they are told,regardless of faith and belief.
(Gasp...gasp....*Fordo vows to try to stop bothering Rosemary, and mind his own buisness*)

*Fordo then,blinks,shakes his head and thinks about starting a new thread, "what Fordo would like to stab himself in the eyes with"*

Ok, why is a medical practioner prescribing exorcisim in the first place?

In my opinion, an exorcism is a religious ritual, not a medical procedure and unless you have had training in either the clergy or inmedical school, then you shouldn't be recommending either to anyone.

The doctor should have stuck strictly with her medical practice and kept the religious/occult aspect out of it.

hahahahah.
I'm thinking a wooden stake,
eh, maybe metal, wood splinters.

Exactly. The medical field is the doctors area of expertise and not the spiritual/ religious stuff.

What the doctor should have dont was tell the patient that she had exhausted all her resources trying to figure out the problem and recommend she see another doctor but thats it!

The spiritual/religious stuff is up to the patient to decide for themselves if they need help outside of the medical field and should seek that help from a father, priest or whomever on their own free will. If they think they are posessed/ haunted and do not try and seek out help then shame on them cause it's their problem and not the doctors.

The doctor crossed the line and should have known better. Ok, Im done....next....

Yeah, There's a big diffrence between a reccomendation and a perscription.
He should have asked, not ordered.

I just cannot believe a person would spend that much time, money and effort into medical school only to do something stupid like this and take a chance on ruining their career and reputation. Very dumb thing to do and not her place to say or recommend.

For me personally, there's not enough Here of the incident to make a clear judgement.
(unless i missed something at the SOURCE )
It only Claims the Dr. prescribed an EXORCISM for the patient, was there a prescription written..?
Perhaps the Dr only Suggested an Exorcism...not referring to any specific religion..if any.
It doesnt say if it was a new Dr/patient visit or the patients usual Dr...that Knows the patient.
"What If" the patient was someone in the same Situation as our Rosemary..
and the Dr KNEW about the patients condition and truly was trying to help ...??
Might explain why Dr Pratt did not co-operate with the probe into the claims...?
..and kinda like "The Rooster?! " said..Why would you risk your career...?!

...unless of course the Dr Was Crazy.....in which case ...nevermind...


< Luna..? is there anymore popcorn..?>

I would like to comment here.

A Priest and or Deliverance Minister will not touch these situations unless the person is recommended by a Doctor.

Catholic Churches believe that Possessions are Rare but I believe they are wrong and I believe more people have this problem than anyone would like to admit.

Not long ago I contacted a Paranormal Group connected to the Warrens of Amityville Horror fame and the person at the Website told me Mrs. Warren wanted me to call her which I did and after telling my story to both of them she told me she would not become involved in this unless I consulted a Doctor and they recommended to her that I need to have this problem dealt with by someone like her.

I wrote to our Diocese here, over the years and they gave me the number of a Priest and told me to call him and he would help me with the problem but when I called him he was very irate and said I don't know why the Diocese would give you my number I don't know anything about exorcisms and I don't want to know anything about it.

I went back to the Diocese and told them what the Priest had said to me and asked them to suggest another Priest to help me and I am still waiting for a response to that letter.
I have contacted the Greek Diiocese in Chicago I believe and they gave me the number of a large Church here and I talked to the Priest and he would not believe or get involved.

I have even written to the Vatican about this on several occassions and had hoped they would inspire the Local Diocese to help me but although I wrote them many letters explaining this situation they have not responded to me in any way.

I have gone to the Spiritual Church where this all began and while they believe in communicating with the Spirit World and they give messages to people all the time in the church and give lessons on how to learn how to communicate with the Spirit World when it comes to a problem like I have they refuse to get involved.

That is when I began writing in my private journal everything that has happened in this situation and thats when I began writing on various Forums and commenting on U-Tube n the Videos and I have met with disbelief.

I believe the problem is so many people have been brainwashed by their clergy and priests and the bible that the real truth will not believed when these things happen to someone and I believe the only way for people to learn how hard it is to get help and to have someone believe people like me is to tell them the story and let them determine if they think any Spirits of the Dead are affecting their own life.

I believe the only way to enlightment is exchanging ideas.

I believe in God and I believe in a Creator, but so far no amount of prayer, holy water or anything else has found a way to force these four possessing spirits out of my body.

While my story may be frightening I do believe if we are going to dabble in the truths of the Universe everything that we learn should be used to educate others so they learn eventually how to handle any problem that comes up, because the way things stand now its next to impossible to find anyone to believe or help when a problem like mine rears its ugly head.

Anyone can see from some of the reactions to my story on these boards, there is a great need for education along these lines.

Most people believe that Demons impersonate our Relatives but in fact our Relatives impersonate Demons and in fact that is what a Demon is and this is why we are telling this story and putting a face on Demons.

The fact is there are many mean, spiteful and sometimes violent people on Earth and when they die their still mean, spiteful, violent natures go to the Spirit World with all their Memories, Good and Bad and sometimes they act out against those still back on earth.

Normally these possessions are carried out by people we have known and who have grudges or are out to prove something.

I can't so far get these four to leave my body because of a threat leveled against them by several of the Guides and they are now afraid to leave my body for fear of punishment, but in order to hide that fear they continue their attacks and we continue to try to reason with them to try to bring them out without the aid of a Priest mainly because they don't want to help.
Whether there is really a power in the after Life to carry out the threat made against these four posessing spirits I don't know but if I can talk them out and see how they behave outside this body then I will have more of an answer for research purposes.

*Passes Sammy a bowl of popcorn*

Ok! I've found a more in-depth article on it, YaY! It still doesn't mention if the doctor actually wrote out a prescription tho, so Booo. But it sure is even more damaging to the doctor than the last article.



Doctor 'prescribed an exorcism'

A family planning doctor prescribed an exorcism to a woman during a routine appointment, a medical tribunal heard.
Dr Joyce Pratt, 44, allegedly told the patient she was possessed by an evil spirit and suggested she visit a priest who could take the problem away.

The General Medical Council heard the consultation took place at Westside Contraceptive Services in Westminster, central London.

Dr Pratt denies her fitness to practise is impaired by reason of misconduct.

She is accused of acting in a manner liable to bring the medical profession into disrepute.

Battered bible

The tribunal heard that the patient, referred to as Mrs K, had attended the clinic for a routine contraception injection.

During the appointment she mentioned she was experiencing pain and bleeding and the doctor told her she had "something moving inside her".

In a statement the patient said: "She grabbed my stomach and said that it was a flabby stomach and that it moves and it wasn't normal.

"She then said that there was black magic inside."


She told Mrs K she knew everything about her family and the patient believed her and became extremely frightened
Stephen Brassington, GMC counsel

The doctor allegedly made Mrs K - a practising Muslim - drink what she claimed was Christian holy water from a bottle in the consultation room.

Dr Pratt then read to her from a battered bible, said prayers over her stomach and gave her wooden crosses and stones to ward off evil, the panel heard.

GMC counsel, Stephen Brassington, said Mrs K was too "anxious and distressed" to give evidence to the Fitness to Practise Panel sitting in Manchester.

Advice to disappear

Mr Brassington said: "She told Mrs K she knew everything about her family and the patient believed her and became extremely frightened - a feeling that persisted for many months."

Dr Pratt is also alleged to have failed to co-operate with inquiries into her behaviour by her manager and the primary care trust.

The doctor chose not to attend the hearing or provide herself with any legal representation.

If found guilty of misconduct she may be struck off the medical register.



Story from BBC NEWS:
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Published: 2007/07/09 16:40:21 GMT

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I can't help but get a mental picture in my head of Ralph from The Simpsons saying, "I've got black magic in my tummy!"

I'm a bit dissapointed that it doesn't mention whether or not the doctor wrote out an actual prescription. Can you imagine trying to take that to your local priest? "Uh, how much is it gonna cost me to get this filled? Do you have generic exorcisms? They're the same thing only cheaper right?"

hummmmm...............
Rosemary, are you catholic? just wondering......

I don't believe that has anything to do with it, but the answer is no.

People with this problem usually consult Priests and Deliverance Ministers help because the world believes they are the ones who normally deal with these things.

I have followed the source of the original post here and its the Sun Newspaper in UK and I have registered there so I can comment on this story in that paper and hopefully those who don't believe can be made aware of my story here in the U.S. because its my believe that Education along the lines of the belief in the Paranormal is lacking and I believe more people need to be made aware of the truth about what can happen to those who dabble in the Paranormal and of course Spirits can accoust you whether you dabble in the Paranormal or not.

I believe the Spirit World is all around us and I believe from what I know at this time that they can go anywhere they choose and do anything they want to anyone good or bad and I am not sure that anything in the Universe can stop them, but when I get the true answer to that then I will be sure to tell the World, and in the meantime this is my truth as I understand it from my experiences as a psychic who has been doing this for more than 20 years.

OK, Send you nasty spirits to me, tell them, they can possess me all they like...then you can get on with a normal life...
bring it on.
or , if you would actually like some help, i know of a catholic exorcist who may be more than happy to listen to, and help you...but i doubt you would really want help, as you find excuses at every turn...(why do i even bother?)
as i have said before, its not spiritual in nature, the problem you have....

can i get some popcorn too?

now i'm thinking what happened to the patient after all,
looks like she believed the doctor, as she was very frightened, and i think she was quite happy with the diagnosis.

she should get a proper treatment now,
but instead various people gather around and point her with: "look this is the one who is possessed" grimace on their faces

For misconduct!? The doctor was only trying to help and told her what she thought or atleast what the patient wanted to hear.

*passes a bowl of popcorn to iwona*

I can appreciate a doctor trying to help, but since when is it cool for a doctor to just tell a patient what they think they want to hear?

"Um, ok well, you don't have cancer. Maybe if there's some things you've always wanted to do, you should do them within the next 6 months though..."

What I mean is, he should tell the patient the truth but also tell the patient what he/she wants to hear. So it isn't such a hard blow. I guess I am not explaining myself all to well.

but don't you think medicine and religious or occult matters shouldn't be combined?
religion is a personal belief and no one should impose it upon another person, especially a doctor
IF this woman suspected there could be something more than just mental disorder of some sort,
then all she was allowed to do is to suggest seeing a priest or any other spiritual guide (additionally, but not instead of!)

and i wouldn't ever want to see a doctor who is telling me what i want to hear (at least that's just my point of view)

*receives popcorn*
Thanks Luna! (again)

and good example
i wouldn't mind slapping such an idiot in the face

Now, mixing the two is wrong. But the doctor doesn't deserve to be suspended for half a year unless she did it before. It isn't like she hurt the patient. At the most she should have been warned or put on pay leave for a while.

On the contrary I would love to have the name of the Exorcist.

If he is not in my area and he has an E-Mail Address or business address I would send him an E-Mail as I have others in the past and see what he can tell me which might help.

On the contrary this is a true Possession.

If you want the Spirits here to find you you will have to give them directions because they are not the kind of Spirits that could find you without directions.

Contrary to what many believe Spirits can only find you if they know you or if you give them directions especially if they are the ones with Lower Mentality like the ones I am dealing with.

Although I am writing this I know these four are still too chicken to leave my body because they fear some of the Guides who have threatened them.

One of the Guides yesterday appeared as a Burly Mountain man and he is waiting for Dr. P and George to come out so he can tangle with them.
I am not sure at this point if the Mountain Man in the Spirit World is trying to bring them out or scare them into never leaving because he thinks we need to convince others this is true so they will become believers.

should i send you a map?

Im going to take the term "wrote a perscription " literally. I can see a patient asking a doctor for advice buts thats all it should be...advice. In other words, weve done all we can medically so you may have to seek help elsewhere outside the world of medicine. If a patient asks for the advice of seeing a priest then fine but to recommend an exorcism is a dumb move on the DR's part.

The DR's expertise lies within the world of MEDICINE and not religion or spirituality. It was not the DR's place to prescribe an exorcism.

I understand that Priests will consult a DR but only to confirm that the patient is of sound mind and body and thats it. Sorry Rosemary but it is not the DR's responsibility to presribe or recommend an exorcism cause possession is way outside the realm of medicine which is ...again...the DR's area of expertise.

If the patient turns out to be of sound mind and body then it is their decision to seek out a priest for further help and not the DR's.

Bottom line is if I had cancer I wouldnt go to a priest and if I was possessed I wouldnt go to a DR. Ok, Im done for now.

Sure does deserve to be suspended while an investigation of how she is conducting herself as a medical pracitioner is examined. This woman that brought the charges forward had been experiencing pain and bleeding. Could be a form of cancer. Uterian cancer causes bleeding and lower abdominal pain. Based on the stage of the cancer determines whether or not the patient has a chance of surviving. So, she very well could have hurt the patient.

Well I didn't know it was something serious, now if it is something even remotely serious then yes she deserves to be suspended.

I think that's the clincher. She didn't know it was something serious. Instead of giving a thorough medical examination and running tests, she grabs the womans stomach and tells her there's black magic moving in there. I think it adds insult to injury that she goes on to make a practicing muslim drink holy water. Then she sends the person - in pain and bleeding - off with a cross and a couple of rocks.
What if the patient had gone home and died from some internal injury? She'd be facing a lot more than just a suspension.