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Goooood Evvveeening fiends,
Sammy Terry here....Found this article,
it seems to tie together a lot of our thoughts on Ghost
that has been said here at GM through out all the different topics and threads. Enjoy....
When scientists debunk ghosts their first statement is usually, “there is no scientific proof of the existence of ghosts.”
This is wrong. There is scientific proof. Science even has theories that explain something must be happening beyond what we know and what we can see.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Time Magazine's Man of the Century and one of the greatest minds the world has known, taught us that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form of energy into another form of energy. This means that no matter what is done energy cannot be destroyed.
Human beings have both electrical and chemical energy in our bodies. We are organically designed to carry our electrically charged brain and nervous systems. When we die our chemical bodies begin to break down and decompose. The organic side returns to wear it came from - energy changing into a different form of energy as Einstein's law says. So what happens to the electrical energy that flows through our brain? It can't simply disappear or fade away out of existence. That would break the laws of science. That energy has to still be somewhere only now it has changed into a different form of energy. What happens to the energy is really determined by personal faith. No one knows exactly what waits beyond this life. What we do know, thanks to science, is that the electrical pulse energy in each human being will always exist because as a rule it “cannot be destroyed.”
Another great scientist who believed in life after death was Thomas Edison, (1847-1931). Edison was a genius ahead of his time. He invented the light bulb, phonograph, typewriter, electric motor, stock ticker, and 1093 other patented inventions. One of the inventions that he worked on at the end of his career was a secret project, a machine that would let the living see and communicate with the souls of the dead.
Edison believed that that the soul was made up of what he referred to as “life units.” These microscopic particles or life units could rearrange into any form. They retained full memory, personality and were indestructible. Edison's machine would detect these life units in the environment and allow living individual to communicate with the dead. He put many years of hard work into his new creation, but sadly, he died before it was finished. Some called Edison crazy. Others thought that he was onto something bigger than the idea of the light bulb. They believed that if he would have had a little more time, we might all today be living in a very different world.
It's been found that in almost every ghost haunting and poltergeist that there are certain electrical elements at work. Using EMF detectors ghost hunters can monitor these electrical forces. These devices can examine and record even the smallest fluctuation in the surrounding electromagnetic field. Everything gives off some kind of electromagnetic field, even our own bodies. Electrical appliances, like television sets and computers give off higher distortions than a lamp or a toaster would. When ghosts are present there are higher levels of electromagnetic distortions. Many times the distortions are so high that they interfere with the working abilities of computers systems and audio/video equipment. High levels of static electricity are also detectable.
Recording temperature changes is another scientific way of detecting the presence of ghosts. Fluctuations of more than 10 degrees have been recorded in small areas of rooms with constant temperatures. It's a scientific fact that there has to be some form of energy present to alter the temperature. Temperature does not change unless "something" is affecting it one way or the other. In many ghost sightings witnesses report feeling a cold spot. This could be caused by the fact that light does not seem to reflect correctly off of most ghosts, which also gives them a dark form. The light seems to be absorbed into the ghost. The theory is that ghosts absorb both light and heat energy causing the general area around that ghost to be several degrees cooler. There are also hot spots recorded, which could be just the reverse affect occurring. Instead of soaking up the light and heat the ghost is reflecting it back, causing the area to be warmer.
These unexplainable electromagnetic fluctuations and temperature changes are scientific evidence that something is happening. Ghosts are real.
Source: Zerotime.com
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SammyTerry, on Aug 28 2007, 04:00 PM, said:
Goooood Evvveeening fiends,
Sammy Terry here....Found this article,
it seems to tie together a lot of our thoughts on Ghost
that has been said here at GM through out all the different topics and threads. Enjoy....
When scientists debunk ghosts their first statement is usually, “there is no scientific proof of the existence of ghosts.”
This is wrong. There is scientific proof. Science even has theories that explain something must be happening beyond what we know and what we can see.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Time Magazine's Man of the Century and one of the greatest minds the world has known, taught us that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form of energy into another form of energy. This means that no matter what is done energy cannot be destroyed.
Human beings have both electrical and chemical energy in our bodies. We are organically designed to carry our electrically charged brain and nervous systems. When we die our chemical bodies begin to break down and decompose. The organic side returns to wear it came from - energy changing into a different form of energy as Einstein's law says. So what happens to the electrical energy that flows through our brain? It can't simply disappear or fade away out of existence. That would break the laws of science. That energy has to still be somewhere only now it has changed into a different form of energy. What happens to the energy is really determined by personal faith. No one knows exactly what waits beyond this life. What we do know, thanks to science, is that the electrical pulse energy in each human being will always exist because as a rule it “cannot be destroyed.”
Another great scientist who believed in life after death was Thomas Edison, (1847-1931). Edison was a genius ahead of his time. He invented the light bulb, phonograph, typewriter, electric motor, stock ticker, and 1093 other patented inventions. One of the inventions that he worked on at the end of his career was a secret project, a machine that would let the living see and communicate with the souls of the dead.
Edison believed that that the soul was made up of what he referred to as “life units.” These microscopic particles or life units could rearrange into any form. They retained full memory, personality and were indestructible. Edison's machine would detect these life units in the environment and allow living individual to communicate with the dead. He put many years of hard work into his new creation, but sadly, he died before it was finished. Some called Edison crazy. Others thought that he was onto something bigger than the idea of the light bulb. They believed that if he would have had a little more time, we might all today be living in a very different world.
It's been found that in almost every ghost haunting and poltergeist that there are certain electrical elements at work. Using EMF detectors ghost hunters can monitor these electrical forces. These devices can examine and record even the smallest fluctuation in the surrounding electromagnetic field. Everything gives off some kind of electromagnetic field, even our own bodies. Electrical appliances, like television sets and computers give off higher distortions than a lamp or a toaster would. When ghosts are present there are higher levels of electromagnetic distortions. Many times the distortions are so high that they interfere with the working abilities of computers systems and audio/video equipment. High levels of static electricity are also detectable.
Recording temperature changes is another scientific way of detecting the presence of ghosts. Fluctuations of more than 10 degrees have been recorded in small areas of rooms with constant temperatures. It's a scientific fact that there has to be some form of energy present to alter the temperature. Temperature does not change unless "something" is affecting it one way or the other. In many ghost sightings witnesses report feeling a cold spot. This could be caused by the fact that light does not seem to reflect correctly off of most ghosts, which also gives them a dark form. The light seems to be absorbed into the ghost. The theory is that ghosts absorb both light and heat energy causing the general area around that ghost to be several degrees cooler. There are also hot spots recorded, which could be just the reverse affect occurring. Instead of soaking up the light and heat the ghost is reflecting it back, causing the area to be warmer.
These unexplainable electromagnetic fluctuations and temperature changes are scientific evidence that something is happening. Ghosts are real.
Source: Zerotime.com
Sammy Terry here....Found this article,
it seems to tie together a lot of our thoughts on Ghost
that has been said here at GM through out all the different topics and threads. Enjoy....
When scientists debunk ghosts their first statement is usually, “there is no scientific proof of the existence of ghosts.”
This is wrong. There is scientific proof. Science even has theories that explain something must be happening beyond what we know and what we can see.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Time Magazine's Man of the Century and one of the greatest minds the world has known, taught us that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form of energy into another form of energy. This means that no matter what is done energy cannot be destroyed.
Human beings have both electrical and chemical energy in our bodies. We are organically designed to carry our electrically charged brain and nervous systems. When we die our chemical bodies begin to break down and decompose. The organic side returns to wear it came from - energy changing into a different form of energy as Einstein's law says. So what happens to the electrical energy that flows through our brain? It can't simply disappear or fade away out of existence. That would break the laws of science. That energy has to still be somewhere only now it has changed into a different form of energy. What happens to the energy is really determined by personal faith. No one knows exactly what waits beyond this life. What we do know, thanks to science, is that the electrical pulse energy in each human being will always exist because as a rule it “cannot be destroyed.”
Another great scientist who believed in life after death was Thomas Edison, (1847-1931). Edison was a genius ahead of his time. He invented the light bulb, phonograph, typewriter, electric motor, stock ticker, and 1093 other patented inventions. One of the inventions that he worked on at the end of his career was a secret project, a machine that would let the living see and communicate with the souls of the dead.
Edison believed that that the soul was made up of what he referred to as “life units.” These microscopic particles or life units could rearrange into any form. They retained full memory, personality and were indestructible. Edison's machine would detect these life units in the environment and allow living individual to communicate with the dead. He put many years of hard work into his new creation, but sadly, he died before it was finished. Some called Edison crazy. Others thought that he was onto something bigger than the idea of the light bulb. They believed that if he would have had a little more time, we might all today be living in a very different world.
It's been found that in almost every ghost haunting and poltergeist that there are certain electrical elements at work. Using EMF detectors ghost hunters can monitor these electrical forces. These devices can examine and record even the smallest fluctuation in the surrounding electromagnetic field. Everything gives off some kind of electromagnetic field, even our own bodies. Electrical appliances, like television sets and computers give off higher distortions than a lamp or a toaster would. When ghosts are present there are higher levels of electromagnetic distortions. Many times the distortions are so high that they interfere with the working abilities of computers systems and audio/video equipment. High levels of static electricity are also detectable.
Recording temperature changes is another scientific way of detecting the presence of ghosts. Fluctuations of more than 10 degrees have been recorded in small areas of rooms with constant temperatures. It's a scientific fact that there has to be some form of energy present to alter the temperature. Temperature does not change unless "something" is affecting it one way or the other. In many ghost sightings witnesses report feeling a cold spot. This could be caused by the fact that light does not seem to reflect correctly off of most ghosts, which also gives them a dark form. The light seems to be absorbed into the ghost. The theory is that ghosts absorb both light and heat energy causing the general area around that ghost to be several degrees cooler. There are also hot spots recorded, which could be just the reverse affect occurring. Instead of soaking up the light and heat the ghost is reflecting it back, causing the area to be warmer.
These unexplainable electromagnetic fluctuations and temperature changes are scientific evidence that something is happening. Ghosts are real.
Source: Zerotime.com
Very Interesting.. so there's scientific proof of the soul, as it seems.
Come on god, answer me. for years I'm asking why, why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered, have you already said to the world here is justice, here is punishment, here, in me.
I still talk to God sometimes, I ask him if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I'm still waiting for an answer, and until I get one, I'll be waiting, watching, THE GUILTY WILL BE PUNISHED!
I still talk to God sometimes, I ask him if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I'm still waiting for an answer, and until I get one, I'll be waiting, watching, THE GUILTY WILL BE PUNISHED!
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 03:54 AM
Beyond The Grave, on Aug 28 2007, 09:36 PM, said:
Very Interesting.. so there's scientific proof of the soul, as it seems.
Fascinating article.
Einstein was right and Edison was right.
As I read the Edison theories about developing a machine to communicate with those who have died its very exciting because I know now you don't need a machine to communicate with those beyond Death that is what Psychic Mediums do when they channel for Spirit.
Perhaps the Machine would have been able to relay voices of the dead and that could have made a Difference.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have been communicating with my relatives and others since l985 but I have no way to Prove this but had Edisons Machine worked and brought in the voice proof from beyond the Veil of Death that could have been wonderful.
In the Past Einstein has appered smiling to me to say some of our Ideas we mailed out for Research were going to be used.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 06:59 AM
^ Would someone flip the record over so it stops repeating itself over and over and over and over again^
Thanks for posting this Sammy. Very interesting stuff indeed. I didnt know Einstein and Edison were believers.
Thanks for posting this Sammy. Very interesting stuff indeed. I didnt know Einstein and Edison were believers.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 05:52 PM
SammyTerry, on Aug 28 2007, 08:00 PM, said:
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In many ghost sightings witnesses report feeling a cold spot. This could be caused by the fact that light does not seem to reflect correctly off of most ghosts, which also gives them a dark form. The light seems to be absorbed into the ghost. The theory is that ghosts absorb both light and heat energy causing the general area around that ghost to be several degrees cooler. There are also hot spots recorded, which could be just the reverse affect occurring. Instead of soaking up the light and heat the ghost is reflecting it back, causing the area to be warmer.
In many ghost sightings witnesses report feeling a cold spot. This could be caused by the fact that light does not seem to reflect correctly off of most ghosts, which also gives them a dark form. The light seems to be absorbed into the ghost. The theory is that ghosts absorb both light and heat energy causing the general area around that ghost to be several degrees cooler. There are also hot spots recorded, which could be just the reverse affect occurring. Instead of soaking up the light and heat the ghost is reflecting it back, causing the area to be warmer.
this paragraph makes me wonder if someone found a common denominator between ghosts and black holes here...
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 06:03 PM
iwona, on Aug 29 2007, 01:52 PM, said:
this paragraph makes me wonder if someone found a common denominator between ghosts and black holes here...
Well, my study of neither objects of topic are very slim.. but dont black holes devour energy (they devour everything) to grow? Ghosts use energy from the things around them to take a physical form.. so that's something in common. Correct me if i'm ignorant/wrong.
Come on god, answer me. for years I'm asking why, why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered, have you already said to the world here is justice, here is punishment, here, in me.
I still talk to God sometimes, I ask him if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I'm still waiting for an answer, and until I get one, I'll be waiting, watching, THE GUILTY WILL BE PUNISHED!
I still talk to God sometimes, I ask him if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I'm still waiting for an answer, and until I get one, I'll be waiting, watching, THE GUILTY WILL BE PUNISHED!
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 01:24 PM
I personally don't believe that the Spirits of the Dead, sometimes called Ghosts need anything electically or otherwise to exist.
From my experience, I believe they can go anywhere they choose and do anything they choose and at this point in time I have no proof that the Spirits of the Dead can be controlled by anything or anyone in the Universe or on Earth.
I have however been told that this is not true and that a Power in the Universe can control them but from my own experiences I am not sure of that and am still investigating to see what I believe as time goes on.
I believe that Spirits can be heard and or even photographed if they choose to be and if they don't they can hide and no amount of investigation can make them appear in a provable way.
Do I believe that Ghosts can be heard and Photographed and the answer is yes but only if they choose to be.
One of the Guides I am in communication with says he has the power to destroy an Evil Spirit but in more than 20 years of telling me this he has yet to prove it.
Now he tells me these four Spirits are doing this to me because I have not written enough about what I have done to them in the past, and I have told him that I have no intention of taking any more blame for this situation than I already have and now into the future if he wants me to believe he has the power to destroy a spirit or bring it under control he is going to have to prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt because now I am looking on this as Paranormal Research and I will believe now only what is proven to me.
Since I told him that I have gotten little Psychic Information and so if he chooses to treat me this way then I will just use what I have collected over the years and by the end of my writing hopefully I can decide what I believe the truth to be.
As a Paranormal Investigator and an Investigative Reporter who can never bend to pressure.
From my experience, I believe they can go anywhere they choose and do anything they choose and at this point in time I have no proof that the Spirits of the Dead can be controlled by anything or anyone in the Universe or on Earth.
I have however been told that this is not true and that a Power in the Universe can control them but from my own experiences I am not sure of that and am still investigating to see what I believe as time goes on.
I believe that Spirits can be heard and or even photographed if they choose to be and if they don't they can hide and no amount of investigation can make them appear in a provable way.
Do I believe that Ghosts can be heard and Photographed and the answer is yes but only if they choose to be.
One of the Guides I am in communication with says he has the power to destroy an Evil Spirit but in more than 20 years of telling me this he has yet to prove it.
Now he tells me these four Spirits are doing this to me because I have not written enough about what I have done to them in the past, and I have told him that I have no intention of taking any more blame for this situation than I already have and now into the future if he wants me to believe he has the power to destroy a spirit or bring it under control he is going to have to prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt because now I am looking on this as Paranormal Research and I will believe now only what is proven to me.
Since I told him that I have gotten little Psychic Information and so if he chooses to treat me this way then I will just use what I have collected over the years and by the end of my writing hopefully I can decide what I believe the truth to be.
As a Paranormal Investigator and an Investigative Reporter who can never bend to pressure.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:30 PM
Spirits are limited to what they can do since they don't have a physical dense body like the living thus limiting them. The universal doesn't control them their limitations do, big difference.
If your a medium Rosemary one can easily pick up spirit energy and if you happen to be clairvoyant you can see them too. Spirits can most certainly be heard if you have the ability to hear them or see them or if you happen to be sensetive to their energy you can also feel them.
Spirits can manifest in several different ways and it's dependent on the energy usage at the time of manifestation. They can appear as a white cartoon like form in a photo or a face in an orb or a full body spirit of what they are trying to portray themselves to look like. They could also be lying so a good psychic medium will see and feel the difference despite this trickery..
It's been fun chatting Rosemary...
If your a medium Rosemary one can easily pick up spirit energy and if you happen to be clairvoyant you can see them too. Spirits can most certainly be heard if you have the ability to hear them or see them or if you happen to be sensetive to their energy you can also feel them.
Spirits can manifest in several different ways and it's dependent on the energy usage at the time of manifestation. They can appear as a white cartoon like form in a photo or a face in an orb or a full body spirit of what they are trying to portray themselves to look like. They could also be lying so a good psychic medium will see and feel the difference despite this trickery..
It's been fun chatting Rosemary...
Rosemary, on Sep 2 2007, 09:24 AM, said:
I personally don't believe that the Spirits of the Dead, sometimes called Ghosts need anything electically or otherwise to exist.
From my experience, I believe they can go anywhere they choose and do anything they choose and at this point in time I have no proof that the Spirits of the Dead can be controlled by anything or anyone in the Universe or on Earth.
I have however been told that this is not true and that a Power in the Universe can control them but from my own experiences I am not sure of that and am still investigating to see what I believe as time goes on.
I believe that Spirits can be heard and or even photographed if they choose to be and if they don't they can hide and no amount of investigation can make them appear in a provable way.
Do I believe that Ghosts can be heard and Photographed and the answer is yes but only if they choose to be.
One of the Guides I am in communication with says he has the power to destroy an Evil Spirit but in more than 20 years of telling me this he has yet to prove it.
Now he tells me these four Spirits are doing this to me because I have not written enough about what I have done to them in the past, and I have told him that I have no intention of taking any more blame for this situation than I already have and now into the future if he wants me to believe he has the power to destroy a spirit or bring it under control he is going to have to prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt because now I am looking on this as Paranormal Research and I will believe now only what is proven to me.
Since I told him that I have gotten little Psychic Information and so if he chooses to treat me this way then I will just use what I have collected over the years and by the end of my writing hopefully I can decide what I believe the truth to be.
As a Paranormal Investigator and an Investigative Reporter who can never bend to pressure.
From my experience, I believe they can go anywhere they choose and do anything they choose and at this point in time I have no proof that the Spirits of the Dead can be controlled by anything or anyone in the Universe or on Earth.
I have however been told that this is not true and that a Power in the Universe can control them but from my own experiences I am not sure of that and am still investigating to see what I believe as time goes on.
I believe that Spirits can be heard and or even photographed if they choose to be and if they don't they can hide and no amount of investigation can make them appear in a provable way.
Do I believe that Ghosts can be heard and Photographed and the answer is yes but only if they choose to be.
One of the Guides I am in communication with says he has the power to destroy an Evil Spirit but in more than 20 years of telling me this he has yet to prove it.
Now he tells me these four Spirits are doing this to me because I have not written enough about what I have done to them in the past, and I have told him that I have no intention of taking any more blame for this situation than I already have and now into the future if he wants me to believe he has the power to destroy a spirit or bring it under control he is going to have to prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt because now I am looking on this as Paranormal Research and I will believe now only what is proven to me.
Since I told him that I have gotten little Psychic Information and so if he chooses to treat me this way then I will just use what I have collected over the years and by the end of my writing hopefully I can decide what I believe the truth to be.
As a Paranormal Investigator and an Investigative Reporter who can never bend to pressure.
"You can be in the light or walk in the dark it's a matter of choice in the end"
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:50 PM
WolfSpirit, on Sep 2 2007, 11:30 AM, said:
Spirits are limited to what they can do since they don't have a physical dense body like the living thus limiting them. The universal doesn't control them their limitations do, big difference.
If your a medium Rosemary one can easily pick up spirit energy and if you happen to be clairvoyant you can see them too. Spirits can most certainly be heard if you have the ability to hear them or see them or if you happen to be sensetive to their energy you can also feel them.
Spirits can manifest in several different ways and it's dependent on the energy usage at the time of manifestation. They can appear as a white cartoon like form in a photo or a face in an orb or a full body spirit of what they are trying to portray themselves to look like. They could also be lying so a good psychic medium will see and feel the difference despite this trickery..
It's been fun chatting Rosemary...
If your a medium Rosemary one can easily pick up spirit energy and if you happen to be clairvoyant you can see them too. Spirits can most certainly be heard if you have the ability to hear them or see them or if you happen to be sensetive to their energy you can also feel them.
Spirits can manifest in several different ways and it's dependent on the energy usage at the time of manifestation. They can appear as a white cartoon like form in a photo or a face in an orb or a full body spirit of what they are trying to portray themselves to look like. They could also be lying so a good psychic medium will see and feel the difference despite this trickery..
It's been fun chatting Rosemary...
I never said I can't see them or hear them, I can see and hear everything they do but they can be in the room when others are visiting and they don't know where they are or what they are saying.
Yes I know they can appear to me as Full Human forms walking into the room and the ones who do this don't do it to frighten me we are great friends and they appear like this to let me know no matter what the others are saying and doing they are here to work with me and keep strong against the trouble makers.
What my Guides tell me is there is no way we can get these Spirits out except try to talk them out because to try to destroy them while they are still inside my body might also drive my Spirit out and so for that reason I am trying to talk my three Relatives and Dr. P. into being reasonable and remove themselves and try to go straight in the future and work in the right way.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:05 AM
SammyTerry, on Aug 29 2007, 06:00 AM, said:
When scientists debunk ghosts their first statement is usually, “there is no scientific proof of the existence of ghosts.”
This is wrong. There is scientific proof. Science even has theories that explain something must be happening beyond what we know and what we can see.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Time Magazine's Man of the Century and one of the greatest minds the world has known, taught us that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form of energy into another form of energy. This means that no matter what is done energy cannot be destroyed.
Human beings have both electrical and chemical energy in our bodies. We are organically designed to carry our electrically charged brain and nervous systems. When we die our chemical bodies begin to break down and decompose. The organic side returns to wear it came from - energy changing into a different form of energy as Einstein's law says. So what happens to the electrical energy that flows through our brain? It can't simply disappear or fade away out of existence. That would break the laws of science. That energy has to still be somewhere only now it has changed into a different form of energy. What happens to the energy is really determined by personal faith. No one knows exactly what waits beyond this life. What we do know, thanks to science, is that the electrical pulse energy in each human being will always exist because as a rule it cannot be destroyed.
Source: Zerotime.com
This is wrong. There is scientific proof. Science even has theories that explain something must be happening beyond what we know and what we can see.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Time Magazine's Man of the Century and one of the greatest minds the world has known, taught us that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form of energy into another form of energy. This means that no matter what is done energy cannot be destroyed.
Human beings have both electrical and chemical energy in our bodies. We are organically designed to carry our electrically charged brain and nervous systems. When we die our chemical bodies begin to break down and decompose. The organic side returns to wear it came from - energy changing into a different form of energy as Einstein's law says. So what happens to the electrical energy that flows through our brain? It can't simply disappear or fade away out of existence. That would break the laws of science. That energy has to still be somewhere only now it has changed into a different form of energy. What happens to the energy is really determined by personal faith. No one knows exactly what waits beyond this life. What we do know, thanks to science, is that the electrical pulse energy in each human being will always exist because as a rule it cannot be destroyed.
Source: Zerotime.com
This idea of energy not being destroyed relates to the First Law of Thermodynamics.
The Second Law goes on to say that this energy tends to become more disordered with time. Keeping an ordered system (such as a mind or soul) in working order requires some very special conditions. Death would be a great way to throw a spanner in the works.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:21 AM
Above its been written that a Spirit cannot be Destroyed.
After putting up with four spirits sitting inside my body brutalizing me and interferring with my life for more than 20 years I am beginning to believe this is true, but the fact remains that a Guide has told them he has the power to destroy them at some point in time if they don't come out and come under his control and now they are too frightened to leave my body and to cover up that fear they continue to brutalize me and try to force me to take the blame for why they are doing this which I refuse to do.
They just want to cause me pain and try to force me to take blame so they have an excuse for what they do and just yesterday they said no matter what I write they still will not come out unless the Guide who threatened to destroy them comes after them while they are still inside my body.
Now this is not to tell this story again I am trying to explain that scientifically speaking I need to find a way to bring t hem out of my body so I can prove one way or the other what really happens to Spirits who behave this way and i want to prove whether a dominant spirit in the Spirit World excists who can actually destroy the composition that a Spirit is made up of.
If by chance I manage to talk them out to take this threatening spirit on and he really an't destroy them as he says then I am going tohave to wonder how many other humans may have spirits of the dead sitting inside their body that they may not even know about who could be trying to influence their lives and try to have them doing all sorts of things to prove their power over humans.
I want this to be more than about Religion I am switching this to Scientific for this purpose to see if its possible for Evil Spirits to be brought under control of another Spirit in the Spirit World or cast off into the Pits of Hell or destroyed as we have been taught.
For this Experiment pretend that I am a scientist like Thomas Edison or someone like that who is not preaching any sort of belief but trying to solve my problem while also trying to sort out some of the truths of the Universe since I have been given the opportunity to do this.
After putting up with four spirits sitting inside my body brutalizing me and interferring with my life for more than 20 years I am beginning to believe this is true, but the fact remains that a Guide has told them he has the power to destroy them at some point in time if they don't come out and come under his control and now they are too frightened to leave my body and to cover up that fear they continue to brutalize me and try to force me to take the blame for why they are doing this which I refuse to do.
They just want to cause me pain and try to force me to take blame so they have an excuse for what they do and just yesterday they said no matter what I write they still will not come out unless the Guide who threatened to destroy them comes after them while they are still inside my body.
Now this is not to tell this story again I am trying to explain that scientifically speaking I need to find a way to bring t hem out of my body so I can prove one way or the other what really happens to Spirits who behave this way and i want to prove whether a dominant spirit in the Spirit World excists who can actually destroy the composition that a Spirit is made up of.
If by chance I manage to talk them out to take this threatening spirit on and he really an't destroy them as he says then I am going tohave to wonder how many other humans may have spirits of the dead sitting inside their body that they may not even know about who could be trying to influence their lives and try to have them doing all sorts of things to prove their power over humans.
I want this to be more than about Religion I am switching this to Scientific for this purpose to see if its possible for Evil Spirits to be brought under control of another Spirit in the Spirit World or cast off into the Pits of Hell or destroyed as we have been taught.
For this Experiment pretend that I am a scientist like Thomas Edison or someone like that who is not preaching any sort of belief but trying to solve my problem while also trying to sort out some of the truths of the Universe since I have been given the opportunity to do this.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 11:27 AM
I have already had full body scans and X-rays to see if I can detect the Spirits in my body and they don't show up on Medical Equipment like this.
My Plan now is to try to get them to leave my body and test others in the Spirit World who claim to have the ability to bring them under control and have the four spirits challenge them and try to force them to prove it and whatever happens I will be writing about to prove more about Scientific things relatived to Ghost Hunting and who has power over whom in the Universe.
I feel this of the utmost importance as it relates to Paranormal Research and how I can prove or disprove some of the things I have been told about the Spirit World.
I believe the only way to do this is to gather this first hand information oneself.
Then of course hopefully we will all share what we gather as I am trying to do.
My Plan now is to try to get them to leave my body and test others in the Spirit World who claim to have the ability to bring them under control and have the four spirits challenge them and try to force them to prove it and whatever happens I will be writing about to prove more about Scientific things relatived to Ghost Hunting and who has power over whom in the Universe.
I feel this of the utmost importance as it relates to Paranormal Research and how I can prove or disprove some of the things I have been told about the Spirit World.
I believe the only way to do this is to gather this first hand information oneself.
Then of course hopefully we will all share what we gather as I am trying to do.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 10:24 PM
Rosemary, on Aug 28 2007, 10:54 PM, said:
As I read the Edison theories about developing a machine to communicate with those who have died its very exciting because I know now you don't need a machine to communicate with those beyond Death that is what Psychic Mediums do when they channel for Spirit.
Perhaps the Machine would have been able to relay voices of the dead and that could have made a Difference.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have been communicating with my relatives and others since l985 but I have no way to Prove this but had Edisons Machine worked and brought in the voice proof from beyond the Veil of Death that could have been wonderful.
Perhaps the Machine would have been able to relay voices of the dead and that could have made a Difference.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have been communicating with my relatives and others since l985 but I have no way to Prove this but had Edisons Machine worked and brought in the voice proof from beyond the Veil of Death that could have been wonderful.
First off, Great find Sammy!
I think a machine would definatly help,
for those who have no psychic abilities,
for those who are skeptics.
I wonder if the blueprints and plans are still on record somewhere,
maybe in some sort of museum some where?
and why hasn't a reputable ghost hunter/inventor found them and started to work on them...
of course... that invention could be similar to a tape recorder...
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Posted 10 September 2007 - 06:31 PM
Lily of the Lake, on Sep 3 2007, 10:24 PM, said:
First off, Great find Sammy!
I think a machine would definatly help,
for those who have no psychic abilities,
for those who are skeptics.
I wonder if the blueprints and plans are still on record somewhere,
maybe in some sort of museum some where?
and why hasn't a reputable ghost hunter/inventor found them and started to work on them...
of course... that invention could be similar to a tape recorder...
I think a machine would definatly help,
for those who have no psychic abilities,
for those who are skeptics.
I wonder if the blueprints and plans are still on record somewhere,
maybe in some sort of museum some where?
and why hasn't a reputable ghost hunter/inventor found them and started to work on them...
of course... that invention could be similar to a tape recorder...
I loved this article!
With that said, I was wondering to myself about what kind of invention could it possibly be?
Lily, when you said that it might be similar to the tape recorder I thought what a great idea. I wonder if it was something like that. Still has me wondering. Was his intention to make something that was an instant converstation though. Perhaps the "blue prints" to this idea were all in his head and he never wrote any of it down. I'm thinking not likely. So, I wonder where at least his outlines to his plans ended up.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 01:24 AM
Glad everybody liked the article.....here's another i found that i think is interesting...
http://spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spi.../Ghosts_Demons/
http://spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spi.../Ghosts_Demons/
Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:33 AM
I visited the recommended website and its a wonderful site for those to visit who want to understand more about the Paranormal backed by researchers.
I believe the things they write go a long way towards proving all the things I have been writing about in my thread "Do You Believe In Possessions?"
These things are scarey and people don't want to believe them but they are nevertheless true and I believe as time goes on more and more people will write things like this Research Group mentioned above and that coupled with experiences like mine.
The article asks do they have genders and do they have intelligence and the answer to that is yes.
And they are also the Spirits of people we have known when they walked the Earth and they can come back and be nice to us and or seek vengance or do just about anything they choose to do.
I believe the things they write go a long way towards proving all the things I have been writing about in my thread "Do You Believe In Possessions?"
These things are scarey and people don't want to believe them but they are nevertheless true and I believe as time goes on more and more people will write things like this Research Group mentioned above and that coupled with experiences like mine.
The article asks do they have genders and do they have intelligence and the answer to that is yes.
And they are also the Spirits of people we have known when they walked the Earth and they can come back and be nice to us and or seek vengance or do just about anything they choose to do.
This post has been edited by Rosemary: 18 September 2007 - 06:35 AM
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:01 PM
SammyTerry, on Sep 18 2007, 01:24 AM, said:
Glad everybody liked the article.....here's another i found that i think is interesting...
http://spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spi.../Ghosts_Demons/
http://spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spi.../Ghosts_Demons/
Funny...i came across this website myself not so long ago...
I admit it's pretty interesting, but still i find some inaccuracy in what i read there.
The Spiritual Science Research Foundation calls itself an organisation which approaches the subject of spirituality (and thus ghosts) in a modern, scientific way,
and aims to be comprehensible for a common man, regardless of race, religion and culture.
Nonetheless, i find too many references to Hinduism in their argumentation, and it resembles rather a kind of a new doctrine, which has its strong source in beliefs of India, than a scientific reasoning.
I mean, e.g. i couldn't find any specific information about how they succeeded in dividing ghosts into eight categories, or what are the basics of their classification of the Universe.
In my opinion there is no single sign of science there. In fact, it resembles a bizarre conglomerate of Asian religions' (mainly Hinduistic) doctrine with a touch of new age and it's all served in the form of lunatic's ravings.
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Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:21 AM
I was just thinking that this was the kind of 'research' that would appeal to some people here (eg: post 18).
I myself - and clearly CHUPA agrees - do not consider observations made while in some kind of trance as being good scientific research.
Now that may be unwarranted bias on my part. I would love someone to explain to me what real evidence exists. If this is a scientific process than there must be verifiable predictions that can be made based on the theories proposed. Anyone?
I myself - and clearly CHUPA agrees - do not consider observations made while in some kind of trance as being good scientific research.
Now that may be unwarranted bias on my part. I would love someone to explain to me what real evidence exists. If this is a scientific process than there must be verifiable predictions that can be made based on the theories proposed. Anyone?
