[fiendo]

 Rosemary, on Aug 12 2007, 04:02 AM, said:

Well you will change your mind if some Big Ugly Horney Female Ghost who is still lusting after life pays you a visit but if that should happen please come back here and tell us and lets see if we believer you.

It happened! but the ghost woman was hot, we are now in a stable, otherworldly relationship....

[Zeus]

 Fordo, on Aug 11 2007, 10:34 PM, said:

It happened! but the ghost woman was hot, we are now in a stable, otherworldly relationship....

may I ask how you invoke this woman fordo? and why is your rank title cactus? lol +D

[Rosemary]

 Dark Prince, on Aug 11 2007, 02:10 PM, said:

This man lived in North Hampton which means the guy has MONEY! If he was having problems with ghosts/ spirits/ or demons why not stay with friends and put the house up for sale?

Ill tell you why cause he is fricken nuts!

I dont deny that its possible the house was or is haunted but what I do deny is the actual raping of him by these ghosts. I continue to call BS.

Why didnt this man try and get help from someone that is an expert in the field or a priest to come in and try to cleans the house?

Sorry Rosemary but your posts only lead to more questions...

Leaving the house to stay with friends or putting the house up for sale would not solve the problem because if this Spirit of the dead has it in for him and is there to torment him for some reason it will just leave the house and follow him.

Find a Priest and or a deliverance minister is not that easy to find because if no one here believes this will happen to a human chances are the priest and or Minister will not believe and before they do help they are required to have the person see all sorts of Doctors to verify this is true and most Psychiatrists don't believe in these things and if they do they are not going to say so because they fear for their reputations so until more people begin to know the truth about life after death and the power of the Spirits of the dead I'm afraid that humans who have these experiences are pretty much on their own and end up trying to tell these stories on webpages like this which one would think people interested in Ghosts-Mysteries might be the place that these stories can be told but as we know that is not as easy as we would like it to be.
Its only by experiencing some of the things I and others have that people will become believers.

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 Rosemary, on Aug 12 2007, 01:09 AM, said:

Leaving the house to stay with friends or putting the house up for sale would not solve the problem because if this Spirit of the dead has it in for him and is there to torment him for some reason it will just leave the house and follow him.

Find a Priest and or a deliverance minister is not that easy to find because if no one here believes this will happen to a human chances are the priest and or Minister will not believe and before they do help they are required to have the person see all sorts of Doctors to verify this is true and most Psychiatrists don't believe in these things and if they do they are not going to say so because they fear for their reputations so until more people begin to know the truth about life after death and the power of the Spirits of the dead I'm afraid that humans who have these experiences are pretty much on their own and end up trying to tell these stories on webpages like this which one would think people interested in Ghosts-Mysteries might be the place that these stories can be told but as we know that is not as easy as we would like it to be.
Its only by experiencing some of the things I and others have that people will become believers.

How do you know? You dont and neither do I. Now if the man had made attemps to relocate or find some help from a priest or whatever then I could see what you are saying but he did not...

I can see your point of getting evaluated first about mental health but did this man do anything at all to even help himself? Not according to the article he didnt.

I f I was tormented by something of this nature then I would do all that I could to help myself before setting fire to my own house!

This whole story sounds like BS! My guess is he lost it one night and he is now telling crazy ghost stories to get an insanity plea in court.

[Rosemary]

 Dark Prince, on Aug 12 2007, 02:30 AM, said:

How do you know? You dont and neither do I. Now if the man had made attemps to relocate or find some help from a priest or whatever then I could see what you are saying but he did not...

I can see your point of getting evaluated first about mental health but did this man do anything at all to even help himself? Not according to the article he didnt.

I f I was tormented by something of this nature then I would do all that I could to help myself before setting fire to my own house!

This whole story sounds like BS! My guess is he lost it one night and he is now telling crazy ghost stories to get an insanity plea in court.

You are wrong, and I know that because as I wrote in: Do You believe In Spirit Possession? I tell the story about the spirits of three of my dead relatives and Dr. P. who have been sitting inside my body since l986 doing terrible things to me and no one so far has believed that this is happening and there is little I can do about it because people have the attitude you are displaying.

I have contacted Priests and Paranormal Investigators and few will touch this situation.

I did get one Paranormal Group out here and their equipment cannot pick up a spirit or a sound if the Ghosts don't wish to participate and again there is no way of proving anything.

Most Psychiatrists don't believe what i am writing and they don't believe others who have this problem.

One of the Spirits doing this to me was a Psychiatrist when he was alive on Earth and he is having one great laughing time as I try to find help to get a Priest or anyone to believe me and so no one can say for sure what is true and what is not true unless or until they have the same problem themselves.

I don't have any proof that a Priest can help anyway, because praying and holy water and all the rememdies suggested by others has not helped and I believe if this could happen to me and this man it could happen to almost anyone if there is a Spirit of the Dead who chooses to seek vengance.

I have tried to talk to these four and tell them they are accomplishing nothing by picking on only me because no one believes, and if they want to get attention they have to leave my body and choose others to do this to and if no one in the Spirit World stops them I will use them as teachers and write about this and they can teach others just what Spirits are capable of then they will believe.

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 Rosemary, on Aug 12 2007, 02:16 AM, said:

You are wrong, and I know that because as I wrote in: Do You believe In Spirit Possession? I tell the story about the spirits of three of my dead relatives and Dr. P. who have been sitting inside my body since l986 doing terrible things to me and no one so far has believed that this is happening and there is little I can do about it because people have the attitude you are displaying.

I have contacted Priests and Paranormal Investigators and few will touch this situation.

I did get one Paranormal Group out here and their equipment cannot pick up a spirit or a sound if the Ghosts don't wish to participate and again there is no way of proving anything.

Most Psychiatrists don't believe what i am writing and they don't believe others who have this problem.

One of the Spirits doing this to me was a Psychiatrist when he was alive on Earth and he is having one great laughing time as I try to find help to get a Priest or anyone to believe me and so no one can say for sure what is true and what is not true unless or until they have the same problem themselves.

I don't have any proof that a Priest can help anyway, because praying and holy water and all the rememdies suggested by others has not helped and I believe if this could happen to me and this man it could happen to almost anyone if there is a Spirit of the Dead who chooses to seek vengance.

I have tried to talk to these four and tell them they are accomplishing nothing by picking on only me because no one believes, and if they want to get attention they have to leave my body and choose others to do this to and if no one in the Spirit World stops them I will use them as teachers and write about this and they can teach others just what Spirits are capable of then they will believe.

You know what Rosemary? I have tried to have a civil and respectful conversation with you and your supposed entities within but that is no longer going to happen.

To sit there and tell me flat out that I am wrong is VERY egotisticle, arrogant and just outright BS! I have never said anything mean or derogitory towards you but to sit there on your high horse talking about how you know all this stuff without a shred of proof to offer other than your words on a screen is utterly ridiculous!

You need to remember that we all have opinions here and just because there are people that do not agree with you doesnt make you right and them wrong!

How arrogant of you to sit there and pull this crap when you tell us crazy stories about how Elvis, JFK and others have spoke to you from the other side.

Dont waste your time responding cause Im done with reading about the fantasy world you live in and will no longer post anymore responses to you.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to fire up the end loader to scoop up all the BS you have spewed so the place smells better!

[fiendo]

lol, Dark prince, no need to argue with rosey, she is the new messiah,
but seriously, i think this is a good forum to make every one more socially aware about mental illness, and stop some of the social stigma attached to such illness.

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 Dark Prince, on Aug 12 2007, 04:19 AM, said:

You know what Rosemary? I have tried to have a civil and respectful conversation with you and your supposed entities within but that is no longer going to happen.

To sit there and tell me flat out that I am wrong is VERY egotisticle, arrogant and just outright BS! I have never said anything mean or derogitory towards you but to sit there on your high horse talking about how you know all this stuff without a shred of proof to offer other than your words on a screen is utterly ridiculous!

You need to remember that we all have opinions here and just because there are people that do not agree with you doesnt make you right and them wrong!

How arrogant of you to sit there and pull this crap when you tell us crazy stories about how Elvis, JFK and others have spoke to you from the other side.

Dont waste your time responding cause Im done with reading about the fantasy world you live in and will no longer post anymore responses to you.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to fire up the end loader to scoop up all the BS you have spewed so the place smells better!

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I don't mean to sound like an igotistical know it all but what can I say when you call my knowledge BS and refuse to believe that Elvis, JFK and others can speak to me from beynd the veil of Death.

They could in fact speak to any one of you if you would only believe and develop your Psychic Gift which I believe all of us have and see what Guides appear to you.

My mean spirits are an isolated case I believe because in all the years I have been working with Spirit not one other spirit has appeared to me in a threatening way.

But to call my knowledge and my experiences BS and suggest mental treatment and the like which many do is not nice.

Of course I have no proof because I can't record these Spirits voices or take pictures of them because they won't participate and I am not very good on that kind of equipment anyway.

Some people may be timid about believing my Stories just in case I am making it up but I assure you its all true.

In fact JFK is very hurt because I can't get anyone to believe the truth behind the Assassination and also because when I send a Manuscript out anywhere it disappears without a trace and so its very discouraging and he believes the world will never hear the truth behind his murder and if that happens he will never find peace in the After Life.

There is good and bad Souls in the after Life just as there are here on Earth and those who seek vengance in the Spirit World against humans they feel have in someway contributed to their unhappiness when they were here on Earth may return to seek Vengance knowing the person will have trouble getting anyone to believe them.

So no I am not arrogant or know it all and I am not peddling BS but trying to share the Knowledge I have picked up from communication with the Spirit World for more than 20 years and I believe people should be aware of the good and bad of Spirit Communication so they know how to deal with everything that might come to them from the Spirit World.

[Luna]

 Rosemary, on Aug 13 2007, 02:27 AM, said:

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I don't mean to sound like an igotistical know it all but what can I say when you call my knowledge BS and refuse to believe that Elvis, JFK and others can speak to me from beynd the veil of Death.

They could in fact speak to any one of you if you would only believe and develop your Psychic Gift which I believe all of us have and see what Guides appear to you.

My mean spirits are an isolated case I believe because in all the years I have been working with Spirit not one other spirit has appeared to me in a threatening way.

But to call my knowledge and my experiences BS and suggest mental treatment and the like which many do is not nice.

Of course I have no proof because I can't record these Spirits voices or take pictures of them because they won't participate and I am not very good on that kind of equipment anyway.

Some people may be timid about believing my Stories just in case I am making it up but I assure you its all true.

In fact JFK is very hurt because I can't get anyone to believe the truth behind the Assassination and also because when I send a Manuscript out anywhere it disappears without a trace and so its very discouraging and he believes the world will never hear the truth behind his murder and if that happens he will never find peace in the After Life.

There is good and bad Souls in the after Life just as there are here on Earth and those who seek vengance in the Spirit World against humans they feel have in someway contributed to their unhappiness when they were here on Earth may return to seek Vengance knowing the person will have trouble getting anyone to believe them.

So no I am not arrogant or know it all and I am not peddling BS but trying to share the Knowledge I have picked up from communication with the Spirit World for more than 20 years and I believe people should be aware of the good and bad of Spirit Communication so they know how to deal with everything that might come to them from the Spirit World.

Rosemary, I've posted a question for you over in the Questions For Rosemary thread regarding your last comment.

I would've PM'd that but my net is running wicked slow today and it was just faster to post it here, sorry

[Rosemary]

 Luna, on Aug 12 2007, 11:26 PM, said:

Rosemary, I've posted a question for you over in the Questions For Rosemary thread regarding your last comment.

I would've PM'd that but my net is running wicked slow today and it was just faster to post it here, sorry

Ok I'll go read the ask Rosemary and answer there.

[Aliamaru]

Quite honestly, after seeing how things have gone on this thread and the other in the General area, I think it would be an excellent idea if everyone stepped back for a while and just took a few deep breaths.

[Cheryl]

 Ice_Princess_Ali, on Aug 14 2007, 07:05 PM, said:

Quite honestly, after seeing how things have gone on this thread and the other in the General area, I think it would be an excellent idea if everyone stepped back for a while and just took a few deep breaths.

Alright. So I took a few steps back, tripped, fell over, knocked a whole bunch of stuff everywhere. Took a few deep breaths and use those to curse very loudly.
Now what?

[Lily of the Lake]

 Cheryl, on Aug 14 2007, 02:09 PM, said:

Alright. So I took a few steps back, tripped, fell over, knocked a whole bunch of stuff everywhere. Took a few deep breaths and use those to curse very loudly.
Now what?

hahahah! LMAO!!!
That's great!

[Aliamaru]

 Cheryl, on Aug 14 2007, 01:09 PM, said:

Alright. So I took a few steps back, tripped, fell over, knocked a whole bunch of stuff everywhere. Took a few deep breaths and use those to curse very loudly.
Now what?

Need a bandaid?

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 Cheryl, on Aug 14 2007, 03:09 PM, said:

Alright. So I took a few steps back, tripped, fell over, knocked a whole bunch of stuff everywhere. Took a few deep breaths and use those to curse very loudly.
Now what?

If ya have to ask take another step back and repeat the process over again.

[Appariton777]

 Lily of the Lake, on Aug 9 2007, 07:57 PM, said:

I was referring to when he showed to court in his pajamas

Nice pic very funny!

[Emmeileia]

It is hard to believe, but I have heard of this before. Or at least of people having 'sexual interaction' (not just rape experiences) with ghosts before. (I think cosmo did a halloween article on it once, it was HI-LARIOUS)

There is a long tradition of DEMONS raping people, however. I mean, calling them demons may just be calling a rose by any other name, but the tradition is there.

You have Lilith in the Judeo-Christian tradition who steals men's seed to produce demon offspring. Also Incubi (male) and Succubi (female) who traditionally seduce or rape people for reasons unknow.

There is the African (I think) Popobawa (means bat-winged demon) who rapes men who don't believe in him...in fact there was just recently supposed to be an outbreak of Popobawa attacks.

As to why a ghost would rape someone...who knows. Maybe they want to get laid. Metaphysically speaking sex is supposed to create a lot of 'energy' that a ghost could want for some reason.

[Gigan]

Incubi and Sucubi were just scapegoats for nocturnal arousal in men and women, manufactured in the fevered minds of religious zealots, as with all other things we couldn't explain back in the day, who else could we blame but the devil and his minions?

From Wikipedia:

A number of mundane explanations have been offered for the origin of the incubus legends. They involve the Medieval preoccupation with sin, especially sexual sins of women. Victims may have been experiencing waking dreams or sleep paralysis. Also, nocturnal arousal, orgasm or nocturnal emission could be explained by the idea of creatures causing an otherwise guilt-producing and self-conscious behavior.

Purported victims of incubi could have been the victims of sexual assault by a real person. Rapists may have attributed the rapes of sleeping women to demons in order to escape punishment. A friend or relative may have assaulted the victim in her sleep. The victims and, in some cases the local clergy, may have found it easier to explain the attack as supernatural rather than confront the idea that the attack came from someone in a position of trust.

Disassociation, anyone?

In as far as a spirit being able to manifest on the physical plane and have intercourse, well, I find that ludicrous. I'm sorry but if thats the case then we would finally have something called physical evidence, dna samples and the like, so this, to me, is just tosh.

This story is pretty plain and simple, an unfortunate story of a disturbed young man who commited an act of arson, end of story. It fits patterns of so many other similar stories I have heard. I have a good friend who is a clinical psychologist, and would talk for hours about the different cases he's treated, including a man who was convinced that vampires really do walk the earth, and that he see's them everywhere, even though others cant...

Why does there have to be a supernatural reason to what this guy did, when its obvious that he needs professional help?

[Emmeileia]

I'm not saying it is true or not...just that the tradition is there, for whatever reason. I agree with you that in all likelyhood this particular guy is loopy and needs professional help.


Interesting spinoff...would ghosts or demons or what-have-you leave DNA were they to have sex with someone? I mean, if you are a dead, discorporate spirit, do you have DNA? I have read about cases of supposed ghost and demon rape where the victim was quite beat up afterwards. You make a good point, though, about victims blaming a demon rather than point out someone they know as the attacker.

[Rosemary]

 Emmeileia, on Aug 16 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

I'm not saying it is true or not...just that the tradition is there, for whatever reason. I agree with you that in all likelyhood this particular guy is loopy and needs professional help.
Interesting spinoff...would ghosts or demons or what-have-you leave DNA were they to have sex with someone? I mean, if you are a dead, discorporate spirit, do you have DNA? I have read about cases of supposed ghost and demon rape where the victim was quite beat up afterwards. You make a good point, though, about victims blaming a demon rather than point out someone they know as the attacker.

Ghosts or Spirits do not leave DNA because they are not in a Physical Body and therefore they do not produce saliva, semen, or Blood.

They can however appear in a body that appears very real if they so wish to and they are capable of many things.

Fortunately I have not come in contact with many Mean Spirits and the only ones I did come in Contact with were known to me before they died.