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Posted 24 July 2007 - 03:14 AM

Ghost Torments Families

New Era (Windhoek)
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23 July 2007
Posted to the web 23 July 2007

By Emma Kakololo



Five families at Havana squatter camp in Katutura are living in fear after their houses were attacked with stones from an unseen hand in broad daylight and three homes were razed by a mysterious fire.

The families are attributing the incidents to a spirit that is haunting 15-year-old Anastasia Johannes.

The teenage girl has been living with her uncle Abisai Nghidileko, whose shack was gutted last Monday. This is the second time one of his shacks has caught fire; the first time was in April. Yesterday the "spirit" was apparently still throwing stones at the family.

When New Era visited the site on Friday, Johannes's uncle alleged that she was paying for the sins of her mother Penehafo David and stepfather (only known as Mehas) who sourced help from a witchdoctor to become rich.

It turned out that for the juju to be effective the witchdoctor instructed the stepfather to kill the girl's mother, which the stepfather refused to do.

"Now this has backfired. Never in my life has a family member approached a witchdoctor for wealth. This is the first time I hear of such a thing.

"The stepfather refused to kill her mother because he still loves her, now the ghost wants to kill the child," alleged Johannes uncle.

Confirming the poltergeist activity, Johannes told New Era that shortly before their shack was mysteriously burned down on Monday, a ghostly voice told her that she too was going to die.

"It was after school and I was busy taking off my school uniform. While I was almost finished undressing I heard a voice in the room telling me, 'you can continue undressing but just know that today you are going to die'.

"I looked around and was wondering where this voice was coming from since I was the only person in the shack. I ran outside and told my friends, but no one believed me. My kid sister also came from school and we went to fetch water (about five metres away from their house). On our way back we saw that the house was on fire."

She said this was not the first time she heard the "ghostly voice". The first time the "angry Oshiwambo-speaking voice", seemingly that of a man, spoke to them was when she was living with her parents early this year.

"In the night we could not sleep. We would hear the same voice telling us, you are going to die today, and threw stones at our 'kambashu' (shack). Or sometimes it would be quiet but in the morning we would find sand and stones all over our blankets and also our food.

"If my mother prepared food for us, before we were about to eat, someone would put sand and stones on our plates. Although we could see how the sand was being picked up we could not see the person," she said.

"Obviously, no human prankster could have possibly thrown the stones without being seen," said her uncle.

"Now this spirit followed her to my house. The 'thing' is throwing us with stones. I don't allow her to cook anymore because, first it started with her mother, now it is with her. It puts sand and stones in whatever she is cooking."

He said they were now sleeping outside fearing for their lives after the fire. "First the spirit was throwing us with stones now it started burning our houses too. We lost everything in the fire as well as her schoolbooks and clothes. We sleep in the cold and don't have enough blankets to keep us warm."

Their neighbour Melania Lukas and her family have also been sleeping outside since their shack mysteriously burnt down in April. She claimed that her shack caught fire after Johannes spent a night there.

"The girl came to sleep at my house after the 'thing' burnt down their house the previous day at 4pm. The next day, at 4pm also, the 'thing' burned my 'kambashu' too. We lost all our belongings in the fire.

"We are also so scared to move into the new 'kambashu' we rebuilt. What if this spirit comes back and burns it again? We don't want to wake up the next morning and find our children burnt to death."

She said her baby got sick because of the cold nights outside.

Lukas shares her shack with her sister and her baby as well as her six children.

They are now calling for the church to release Johannes from witchcraft.

"If also I had money, I could take her to Owamboland where she can get help.

I am sure traditional doctors there could help her," said Nghidileko.

He said Johannes' mother got help from a traditional doctor but refused help for her daughter.

"Only her mother got treated because she knows what is going on. She knows of the place (witchdoctor) where they went to get rich. This is not allowed in our clan."

David could not be reached for comment as she was apparently in Owamboland.

Johannes told New Era that she was unable to sleep at night, as she fears for her life and wishes that someone could help her out of her misery.

"I wish someone could make this spirit go away forever."

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:25 PM

View PostLuna, on Jul 24 2007, 03:14 AM, said:

Ghost Torments Families

New Era (Windhoek)
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23 July 2007
Posted to the web 23 July 2007

By Emma Kakololo

Five families at Havana squatter camp in Katutura are living in fear after their houses were attacked with stones from an unseen hand in broad daylight and three homes were razed by a mysterious fire.

The families are attributing the incidents to a spirit that is haunting 15-year-old Anastasia Johannes.

The teenage girl has been living with her uncle Abisai Nghidileko, whose shack was gutted last Monday. This is the second time one of his shacks has caught fire; the first time was in April. Yesterday the "spirit" was apparently still throwing stones at the family.

When New Era visited the site on Friday, Johannes's uncle alleged that she was paying for the sins of her mother Penehafo David and stepfather (only known as Mehas) who sourced help from a witchdoctor to become rich.

It turned out that for the juju to be effective the witchdoctor instructed the stepfather to kill the girl's mother, which the stepfather refused to do.

"Now this has backfired. Never in my life has a family member approached a witchdoctor for wealth. This is the first time I hear of such a thing.

"The stepfather refused to kill her mother because he still loves her, now the ghost wants to kill the child," alleged Johannes uncle.

Confirming the poltergeist activity, Johannes told New Era that shortly before their shack was mysteriously burned down on Monday, a ghostly voice told her that she too was going to die.

"It was after school and I was busy taking off my school uniform. While I was almost finished undressing I heard a voice in the room telling me, 'you can continue undressing but just know that today you are going to die'.

"I looked around and was wondering where this voice was coming from since I was the only person in the shack. I ran outside and told my friends, but no one believed me. My kid sister also came from school and we went to fetch water (about five metres away from their house). On our way back we saw that the house was on fire."

She said this was not the first time she heard the "ghostly voice". The first time the "angry Oshiwambo-speaking voice", seemingly that of a man, spoke to them was when she was living with her parents early this year.

"In the night we could not sleep. We would hear the same voice telling us, you are going to die today, and threw stones at our 'kambashu' (shack). Or sometimes it would be quiet but in the morning we would find sand and stones all over our blankets and also our food.

"If my mother prepared food for us, before we were about to eat, someone would put sand and stones on our plates. Although we could see how the sand was being picked up we could not see the person," she said.

"Obviously, no human prankster could have possibly thrown the stones without being seen," said her uncle.

"Now this spirit followed her to my house. The 'thing' is throwing us with stones. I don't allow her to cook anymore because, first it started with her mother, now it is with her. It puts sand and stones in whatever she is cooking."

He said they were now sleeping outside fearing for their lives after the fire. "First the spirit was throwing us with stones now it started burning our houses too. We lost everything in the fire as well as her schoolbooks and clothes. We sleep in the cold and don't have enough blankets to keep us warm."

Their neighbour Melania Lukas and her family have also been sleeping outside since their shack mysteriously burnt down in April. She claimed that her shack caught fire after Johannes spent a night there.

"The girl came to sleep at my house after the 'thing' burnt down their house the previous day at 4pm. The next day, at 4pm also, the 'thing' burned my 'kambashu' too. We lost all our belongings in the fire.

"We are also so scared to move into the new 'kambashu' we rebuilt. What if this spirit comes back and burns it again? We don't want to wake up the next morning and find our children burnt to death."

She said her baby got sick because of the cold nights outside.

Lukas shares her shack with her sister and her baby as well as her six children.

They are now calling for the church to release Johannes from witchcraft.

"If also I had money, I could take her to Owamboland where she can get help.

I am sure traditional doctors there could help her," said Nghidileko.

He said Johannes' mother got help from a traditional doctor but refused help for her daughter.

"Only her mother got treated because she knows what is going on. She knows of the place (witchdoctor) where they went to get rich. This is not allowed in our clan."

David could not be reached for comment as she was apparently in Owamboland.

Johannes told New Era that she was unable to sleep at night, as she fears for her life and wishes that someone could help her out of her misery.

"I wish someone could make this spirit go away forever."

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 12:30 PM

:lol:
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this is a good find, Luna! i know about many victims of tribal beliefs and cults, but never heard of throwing stones with invisible hand
this is what i liked most: It puts sand and stones in whatever she is cooking.
i often wondered myself, what is the real cause of such cases: some mind distortion, telekinetic abilities, supernatural abilities of shaman or "victim", or a real intervention of "ghost"/demon (?)
i cannot answer that question, although i think sometimes people (especially in old tribal cultures) have such abilities that can cause some weird stuff...it doesn't have to be paranormal...but still is worthy investigation

oh, and i don't quite like the "New Era" in it...it reminds me of all those freaks i met in my life haha :su

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 01:30 PM

View Postiwona, on Jul 24 2007, 10:30 PM, said:

:lol:
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this is a good find, Luna! i know about many victims of tribal beliefs and cults, but never heard of throwing stones with invisible hand
this is what i liked most: It puts sand and stones in whatever she is cooking.
i often wondered myself, what is the real cause of such cases: some mind distortion, telekinetic abilities, supernatural abilities of shaman or "victim", or a real intervention of "ghost"/demon (?)
i cannot answer that question, although i think sometimes people (especially in old tribal cultures) have such abilities that can cause some weird stuff...it doesn't have to be paranormal...but still is worthy investigation

oh, and i don't quite like the "New Era" in it...it reminds me of all those freaks i met in my life haha :st


Thanks ladies :)

The sand/stones in the food was my favorite part too iwona :su
I wish someone would film some of this stuff, it's hard to get a good idea of exactly what's going on otherwise. Their fear could be turning mundane events into the supernatural.
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 01:59 PM

:lol: it would be great if this could be recorded on tape
and i agree, but our thoughts are a powerful weapon sometimes, our mind is full of mysteries we have no clue about...for example, if we believe hardly enough that something will happen to us...there's a great chance it will
no wonder people say: dreams may come true....as well as our "evil" thoughts
i mentioned telekinesis, and now i add telepathy - both are a good confirmation of our mind's power

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:05 PM

View Postiwona, on Jul 24 2007, 11:59 PM, said:

:su it would be great if this could be recorded on tape
and i agree, but our thoughts are a powerful weapon sometimes, our mind is full of mysteries we have no clue about...for example, if we believe hardly enough that something will happen to us...there's a great chance it will
no wonder people say: dreams may come true....as well as our "evil" thoughts
i mentioned telekinesis, and now i add telepathy - both are a good confirmation of our mind's power

Hmm lets test that theory. Start believing that I'm going to win the lottery.

Ready?

K....


.........GO!


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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:19 PM

hahaha....keep trying, Moon Princess, keep trying... :lol: :su

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 08:00 AM

Amazing find! I've wondered that to, is it a real ghost intervention or is it psychic abilities or something else?
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 10:18 PM

This was a good read.
I'm wondering if the sand is picked up by the wind...
then again the stones are probably a bit heavier and couldn't be picked up by the wind.
I agree with iwona that this would be great to get on tape,
maybe even part of a documentary?
hmmmm....
idk, I'm leaning toward thinking that it's real,
although If you do believe in things hard enough they could happen...
but.... I'm dumb founded...

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 08:46 PM

nice story there, too bad that shaman makes it look like a conspiracy and a lie.

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 09:38 AM

I believe that an Angry Spirit may be telling her these frightening things but I do not believe a Spirit can start a fire or put stones and sand in food.

Its possible the Spirit can block the thoughts of a human and cause them to do these things themselves then they won't remember these actions later.

There are many disgrunted Spirits in the Spirit World who have nothing better to do than frighten humans on Earth and at first it can be terrifying because I know only too well what can go through ones mind when Spirits tell us this, but after a time one loses their fear and challenges the Mean Spirits to prove they can force us to do these things and of course they can't.

They can however hang around and make our lives miserable because once a mean spirit learns they have lost their power to frighten its possible that they can enter a body and inflict pain and try to force a human to do what they want them to do.
At this point in time I have no idea how a Human can get rid of the Spirits permanently, but I do know the Human can fight back by letting the Spirits know they cannot communicate with Earth or tell Earth anything other than what the Human wants the World to know.

When dealing with the Paranormal there is so much fantasy and superstition about that its hard for a person who has facts to be believed by those she or he is telling the Stories to because no one has a way to prove the Unseen Spirits.

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:35 AM

View PostRosemary, on Aug 8 2007, 04:38 AM, said:

I believe that an Angry Spirit may be telling her these frightening things but I do not believe a Spirit can start a fire or put stones and sand in food.

Its possible the Spirit can block the thoughts of a human and cause them to do these things themselves then they won't remember these actions later.

There are many disgrunted Spirits in the Spirit World who have nothing better to do than frighten humans on Earth and at first it can be terrifying because I know only too well what can go through ones mind when Spirits tell us this, but after a time one loses their fear and challenges the Mean Spirits to prove they can force us to do these things and of course they can't.

They can however hang around and make our lives miserable because once a mean spirit learns they have lost their power to frighten its possible that they can enter a body and inflict pain and try to force a human to do what they want them to do.
At this point in time I have no idea how a Human can get rid of the Spirits permanently, but I do know the Human can fight back by letting the Spirits know they cannot communicate with Earth or tell Earth anything other than what the Human wants the World to know.

When dealing with the Paranormal there is so much fantasy and superstition about that its hard for a person who has facts to be believed by those she or he is telling the Stories to because no one has a way to prove the Unseen Spirits.


no rose, they already stated how they saw sand float up, it reminds me of when my cousin saw a glass of water spin by itself, I do believe ghosts can move things, at the waverly hills hospital the investigators had been hit by bricks thrown to them by unseen forces, as for a ghost starting a fire.. I'm not sure, it's possible.. maybe.. anyway this sounds like an extremely strong ghost..

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:54 PM

View PostGlamRockEliteSinger, on Aug 9 2007, 07:35 AM, said:

no rose, they already stated how they saw sand float up, it reminds me of when my cousin saw a glass of water spin by itself, I do believe ghosts can move things, at the waverly hills hospital the investigators had been hit by bricks thrown to them by unseen forces, as for a ghost starting a fire.. I'm not sure, it's possible.. maybe.. anyway this sounds like an extremely strong ghost..


Well alright but I think if a ghost could start a fire my home would have burned down long ago.
And I believe personally if a Ghost could move objects I would be ducking flying objects all the time.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 07:42 AM

View PostRosemary, on Aug 9 2007, 02:54 PM, said:

Well alright but I think if a ghost could start a fire my home would have burned down long ago.
And I believe personally if a Ghost could move objects I would be ducking flying objects all the time.


LOL rose, you must be very paranoid about'em then, well then let's just hope ghosts CAN'T start fires, but out of the subject, I ask myself, how in the heck does a ghost start a fire? that sounds like science fiction

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:35 AM

View PostGlamRockEliteSinger, on Aug 10 2007, 03:42 AM, said:

LOL rose, you must be very paranoid about'em then, well then let's just hope ghosts CAN'T start fires, but out of the subject, I ask myself, how in the heck does a ghost start a fire? that sounds like science fiction

Ghosts cannot start fires, they cannot fire guns and they cannot hurl objects as far as I know.
Having written that if any ghosts reading this wants to prove I am wrong bring it on.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:45 AM

I dont know if ghosts would be reading this....
Does the internet really connect through to the other side? wow...I'm obviously with the wrong IPS.....

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:57 AM

View PostFordo, on Aug 10 2007, 06:45 AM, said:

I dont know if ghosts would be reading this....
Does the internet really connect through to the other side? wow...I'm obviously with the wrong IPS.....


In my opinion the other side is all around us, and Ghosts can read newspapers, join people and write on the Internet and put ideas into their head to do research for them and in fact they are reading everything you and I and anyone writing here is writing back and fourth as they do all the time when I come on the Computer.

I don't believe some of them know where each of you are or who you are and I don't believe some of them know anymore about you than I do.

On the Other hand there is also another source in the Universe and I have no idea where that place is that has something called the Book of Life and in that book of Life he has every deed good or bad that we commit in each lifetime and he has shown it to me in Technicolor movies and he can go back in time and forward and he can predict deaths from health problems and or accidents and sometimes if people listen to hunches or warnings from Psychics or dream messages they themselves may receive they can change their desinies and that of others simply by analyzing the dreams and trying to stop bad things much like on the Television show the Medium.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 11:04 AM

View PostRosemary, on Aug 10 2007, 08:57 PM, said:

In my opinion the other side is all around us, and Ghosts can read newspapers, join people and write on the Internet and put ideas into their head to do research for them and in fact they are reading everything you and I and anyone writing here is writing back and fourth as they do all the time when I come on the Computer.

I don't believe some of them know where each of you are or who you are and I don't believe some of them know anymore about you than I do.

On the Other hand there is also another source in the Universe and I have no idea where that place is that has something called the Book of Life and in that book of Life he has every deed good or bad that we commit in each lifetime and he has shown it to me in Technicolor movies and he can go back in time and forward and he can predict deaths from health problems and or accidents and sometimes if people listen to hunches or warnings from Psychics or dream messages they themselves may receive they can change their desinies and that of others simply by analyzing the dreams and trying to stop bad things much like on the Television show the Medium.

Every thing is recorded in that book? damn.....must find it...destroy evidence...

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 11:12 AM

View PostFordo, on Aug 10 2007, 07:04 AM, said:

Every thing is recorded in that book? damn.....must find it...destroy evidence...


That is true, everything you have said or done since the day you were born and its all on Technicolor Movies as good in quality as the finest hollywood film.

How this is done I don't know but this is how he went back in time to the day John F. Kennedy was Assassinated and this is how he can show me who killed someone and what they looked like and what the motive was even before the Police solve the case.

One real shocker for me when I first began gathering this information is he ran my life before me and some of the shots were not nice because the actions I was involved in were not nice and were of a Poronographic nature and this is how I know he can do this to everyone else.

Remember what ever we do or say in our everyday life from the time we are born to the time we die is recorded on what is known as the Akaskic Records in the Spirit World.

Its possible others can do this if they develop their psychic gift the way I have.

One of the reasons these spirits have abused me is they believe if they abuse my brain that I will lose my ability to do this and for now I am not doing much of that because of the violence they are inflicting on me which causes me not to be able to sit quietly and medicate and ask for information, or receive whatever he wants to send to me.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 11:15 AM

"poronographic"?

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